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Roe & Casey overturned.

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #21

    LOL

    "Planned Parenthood should be thrilled, they'll be able to focus on providing all of that non-abortion medical care they constantly remind us about."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #22

      Also AOC: "Votes are not enough. We need to get into the streets."

      Democracy? LOLGF.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        Haha WTF does she think will happen?

        If anything, she (congress) has the power to enact legislation if they really want to change the laws. You know, being part of the LEGISLATIVE branch?

        SCOTUS job was to determine if previous rulings were upheld or overturned, and they did their job here.

        Guess what, for almost 50 years the pro-life side didn't like the ruling and held annual rallys/protests... time for the pro-choice side to do that for a few decades. It's all part of the system.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          #24

          BTW, nothing about abortion has changed in New York.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            Wow. Let the riots begin.

            It will be interesting to see what BLM's reaction is.

            And the gun ruling a day earlier. I question the timing, LOL.

            Anyone denied a cc permit under the ny law would still have to reapply so the timing doesn’t really matter.

            What are the rules regarding open carry?

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            jon-nyc
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            #25

            @LuFins-Dad Honestly i don’t know.

            Yesterdays ruling wasn’t all that broad. It basically extended Heller outside the home. Time place and manner restrictions on weapons are still allowed. You just can put a subjective test on the permitting process (e.g “show me why you need this”).

            Only 6 states are effected in practice.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Shall issue vs. May issue.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Shall issue vs. May issue.

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                @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                Shall issue vs. May issue.

                Yep. 43 states are shall issue. Vermont is just a free for all.

                6 states and DC are May issue.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @LuFins-Dad Honestly i don’t know.

                  Yesterdays ruling wasn’t all that broad. It basically extended Heller outside the home. Time place and manner restrictions on weapons are still allowed. You just can put a subjective test on the permitting process (e.g “show me why you need this”).

                  Only 6 states are effected in practice.

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                  effected

                  CALLING MR. LETIFER ON LINE 1 -
                  MR. LETIFER!!!!!

                  I was only joking

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                  • George KG George K

                    Moar insurrection?

                    Parkland survivor...

                    Screen-Shot-2022-06-24-at-9.jpg

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    Moar insurrection?

                    Parkland survivor...

                    Screen-Shot-2022-06-24-at-9.jpg

                    This makes me curious. What are the mortality rates from abortion? I mean per 1000?

                    The Brad

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      BTW, nothing about abortion has changed in New York.

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                      @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                      BTW, nothing about abortion has changed in New York.

                      Nothing has changed in any state. That’s where the ridiculousness of this comes through.

                      By the way, this is all in regard to a state law that restricts abortion at 15 weeks. France restricts abortion at 12 weeks…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        BTW, nothing about abortion has changed in New York.

                        Nothing has changed in any state. That’s where the ridiculousness of this comes through.

                        By the way, this is all in regard to a state law that restricts abortion at 15 weeks. France restricts abortion at 12 weeks…

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #31

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        a state law that restricts abortion at 15 weeks

                        Yeah, I commented on that back when the leak occurred.

                        Justin Castreaux tweeted about this today, while ignoring the fact that 4 provinces/territories prohibit abortion after 12 weeks.

                        However, overturning Roe opens the door for individual states to make laws that are far, far more restrictive.

                        I believe Missouri now has such a law.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • markM Offline
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                          WI state law criminalizes doctors who perform abortions, making it a felony to destroy the life of an unborn child from the time of conception until its birth. It creates an exception for when two doctors agree that the mother’s life is in jeopardy but does not include carveouts for instances of rape or incest.

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                            WI state law criminalizes doctors who perform abortions, making it a felony to destroy the life of an unborn child from the time of conception until its birth. It creates an exception for when two doctors agree that the mother’s life is in jeopardy but does not include carveouts for instances of rape or incest.

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                            @mark said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                            WI state law criminalizes doctors who perform abortions, making it a felony to destroy the life of an unborn child from the time of conception until its birth. It creates an exception for when two doctors agree that the mother’s life is in jeopardy but does not include carveouts for instances of rape or incest.

                            Instances of Rape and Incest are a bit of a strawman as they represent under 1% of abortions.

                            Florida actually tracks … https://ahca.myflorida.com/MCHQ/Central_Services/Training_Support/docs/TrimesterByReason_2018.pdf

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @mark said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                              WI state law criminalizes doctors who perform abortions, making it a felony to destroy the life of an unborn child from the time of conception until its birth. It creates an exception for when two doctors agree that the mother’s life is in jeopardy but does not include carveouts for instances of rape or incest.

                              Instances of Rape and Incest are a bit of a strawman as they represent under 1% of abortions.

                              Florida actually tracks … https://ahca.myflorida.com/MCHQ/Central_Services/Training_Support/docs/TrimesterByReason_2018.pdf

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #34

                              @LuFins-Dad how does that make it a straw man? Everyone realizes they are small in number. Nobody thinks it’s a big loophole letting thousands of abortions in.

                              It’s just the thought of forcing some 13 year old to carry a rapists baby to term that most people find abhorrent.

                              If anything the rarity makes it that much less excusable to not have a carve out.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @mark said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                WI state law criminalizes doctors who perform abortions, making it a felony to destroy the life of an unborn child from the time of conception until its birth. It creates an exception for when two doctors agree that the mother’s life is in jeopardy but does not include carveouts for instances of rape or incest.

                                Instances of Rape and Incest are a bit of a strawman as they represent under 1% of abortions.

                                Florida actually tracks … https://ahca.myflorida.com/MCHQ/Central_Services/Training_Support/docs/TrimesterByReason_2018.pdf

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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                Instances of Rape and Incest are a bit of a strawman as they represent under 1% of abortions.

                                If there was an exception for incest and rape, that would grow from 1% to 99% rapidly.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  "Peacefully protest..."

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                                  @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                  "Peacefully protest..."

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
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                                    https://www.wsj.com/articles/where-abortion-is-legal-and-where-it-loses-protections-without-roe-v-wade-11656080346?mod=djemalertNEWS

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/congressional-black-caucus-calls-for-national-emergency-after-scotus-decision/ar-AAYQ80e?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7c2842ca7997492ca6d5c818696f6f15

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          The Bee rules.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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