Roe & Casey overturned.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 17:43 last edited by
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wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 18:04 last edited by
Moar insurrection?
Parkland survivor...
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I think the fact that it leaked in May will help blunt the reaction. Some of steam has been released already.
wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 18:08 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
I think the fact that it leaked in May will help blunt the reaction. Some of steam has been released already.
Yeah exactly what I was telling my wife earlier. Your phrasing is even better.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 18:11 last edited by
@George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Moar insurrection?
Parkland survivor...
Voted to kill women? Is he referring to the justices who voted to keep abortion legal, then?
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wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 18:12 last edited by
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@George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
"Peacefully protest..."
"Violence is never acceptable"... unless it's ending the life of an unborn baby.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 18:20 last edited by
LOL
"Planned Parenthood should be thrilled, they'll be able to focus on providing all of that non-abortion medical care they constantly remind us about."
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wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 18:36 last edited by
Also AOC: "Votes are not enough. We need to get into the streets."
Democracy? LOLGF.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 18:53 last edited by
Haha WTF does she think will happen?
If anything, she (congress) has the power to enact legislation if they really want to change the laws. You know, being part of the LEGISLATIVE branch?
SCOTUS job was to determine if previous rulings were upheld or overturned, and they did their job here.
Guess what, for almost 50 years the pro-life side didn't like the ruling and held annual rallys/protests... time for the pro-choice side to do that for a few decades. It's all part of the system.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 19:12 last edited by
BTW, nothing about abortion has changed in New York.
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@jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
@George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
@Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Wow. Let the riots begin.
It will be interesting to see what BLM's reaction is.
And the gun ruling a day earlier. I question the timing, LOL.
Anyone denied a cc permit under the ny law would still have to reapply so the timing doesn’t really matter.
What are the rules regarding open carry?
wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 19:17 last edited by jon-nyc@LuFins-Dad Honestly i don’t know.
Yesterdays ruling wasn’t all that broad. It basically extended Heller outside the home. Time place and manner restrictions on weapons are still allowed. You just can put a subjective test on the permitting process (e.g “show me why you need this”).
Only 6 states are effected in practice.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 19:20 last edited by
Shall issue vs. May issue.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 19:21 last edited by
@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Shall issue vs. May issue.
Yep. 43 states are shall issue. Vermont is just a free for all.
6 states and DC are May issue.
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@LuFins-Dad Honestly i don’t know.
Yesterdays ruling wasn’t all that broad. It basically extended Heller outside the home. Time place and manner restrictions on weapons are still allowed. You just can put a subjective test on the permitting process (e.g “show me why you need this”).
Only 6 states are effected in practice.
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@George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Moar insurrection?
Parkland survivor...
This makes me curious. What are the mortality rates from abortion? I mean per 1000?
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wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 20:47 last edited by
@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
BTW, nothing about abortion has changed in New York.
Nothing has changed in any state. That’s where the ridiculousness of this comes through.
By the way, this is all in regard to a state law that restricts abortion at 15 weeks. France restricts abortion at 12 weeks…
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@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
BTW, nothing about abortion has changed in New York.
Nothing has changed in any state. That’s where the ridiculousness of this comes through.
By the way, this is all in regard to a state law that restricts abortion at 15 weeks. France restricts abortion at 12 weeks…
wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 20:49 last edited by George K@LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
a state law that restricts abortion at 15 weeks
Yeah, I commented on that back when the leak occurred.
Justin Castreaux tweeted about this today, while ignoring the fact that 4 provinces/territories prohibit abortion after 12 weeks.
However, overturning Roe opens the door for individual states to make laws that are far, far more restrictive.
I believe Missouri now has such a law.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 20:53 last edited by
WI state law criminalizes doctors who perform abortions, making it a felony to destroy the life of an unborn child from the time of conception until its birth. It creates an exception for when two doctors agree that the mother’s life is in jeopardy but does not include carveouts for instances of rape or incest.
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WI state law criminalizes doctors who perform abortions, making it a felony to destroy the life of an unborn child from the time of conception until its birth. It creates an exception for when two doctors agree that the mother’s life is in jeopardy but does not include carveouts for instances of rape or incest.
wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 20:56 last edited by LuFins Dad@mark said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
WI state law criminalizes doctors who perform abortions, making it a felony to destroy the life of an unborn child from the time of conception until its birth. It creates an exception for when two doctors agree that the mother’s life is in jeopardy but does not include carveouts for instances of rape or incest.
Instances of Rape and Incest are a bit of a strawman as they represent under 1% of abortions.
Florida actually tracks … https://ahca.myflorida.com/MCHQ/Central_Services/Training_Support/docs/TrimesterByReason_2018.pdf
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@mark said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
WI state law criminalizes doctors who perform abortions, making it a felony to destroy the life of an unborn child from the time of conception until its birth. It creates an exception for when two doctors agree that the mother’s life is in jeopardy but does not include carveouts for instances of rape or incest.
Instances of Rape and Incest are a bit of a strawman as they represent under 1% of abortions.
Florida actually tracks … https://ahca.myflorida.com/MCHQ/Central_Services/Training_Support/docs/TrimesterByReason_2018.pdf
wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 21:02 last edited by jon-nyc@LuFins-Dad how does that make it a straw man? Everyone realizes they are small in number. Nobody thinks it’s a big loophole letting thousands of abortions in.
It’s just the thought of forcing some 13 year old to carry a rapists baby to term that most people find abhorrent.
If anything the rarity makes it that much less excusable to not have a carve out.