Roe & Casey overturned.
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It's horseshit and mirrors. Much of the actual stuff concerns PHI and making sure the government keeps close watch on sale of information such as names, addresses, etc.
Joe? That's already illegal. It's that HIPPO law, Joe. You like hippos, don't you? Want one for Christmas?
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"FACT SHEET: President Biden to Sign Executive Order Protecting Access to Reproductive Health Care Services"
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How about a Fact-check instead of a fact sheet?
WaPo states the 10 year old rape story is extremely difficult to corroborate and points out a couple of potential flaws with the story…
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@LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
How about a Fact-check instead of a fact sheet?
WaPo states the 10 year old rape story is extremely difficult to corroborate and points out a couple of potential flaws with the story…
Someone tell the White House.
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Here’s Jon Stewart and a group of True Believers opining on the ruling.
Link to videoBasically it’s projection about the court having an ideology and working towards a ruling from there. No reflection that that might be what Roe V Wade was.
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@Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Basically it’s projection about the court having an ideology and working towards a ruling from there. No reflection that that might be what Roe V Wade was.
One of the more interesting comments about the ruling is that the basic difference between the "two wings" of SCOTUS is that one wing judges on what the law should be, whereas the other one judges on what the law actually is.
Perhaps an overly simplistic view, but it got my attention.
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@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Up to the legislature to write the law. That ain't the court's job.
OK, so, let's assume that congress passes a law codifying the "right" to abortion.
Would the current 6-3 character of the court overturn that law? My guess is that they wouldn't.
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@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Up to the legislature to write the law. That ain't the court's job.
There's a fine line between writing and interpreting.
I would think that how a law is interpreted by the SCOTUS would be thought by some to almost amount to writing it, or rewriting it. -
@George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Up to the legislature to write the law. That ain't the court's job.
OK, so, let's assume that congress passes a law codifying the "right" to abortion.
Would the current 6-3 character of the court overturn that law? My guess is that they wouldn't.
I don't think they would.
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@George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
@Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Basically it’s projection about the court having an ideology and working towards a ruling from there. No reflection that that might be what Roe V Wade was.
One of the more interesting comments about the ruling is that the basic difference between the "two wings" of SCOTUS is that one wing judges on what the law should be, whereas the other one judges on what the law actually is.
Perhaps an overly simplistic view, but it got my attention.
I imagine the two sides of the court as lawyers arguing cases for their client. Each side of the culture war is a client. Their lawyers on the Supreme Court fashion their constitutional case as well as they can, but the assumption going into it is that they know who their client is, and therefore which side they’re arguing.
Once in a while judges use their prerogative to switch sides on a case, but with cases where progressives want new law to support their ideology, which is what Roe always was, I suspect the divisions will be exactly as predicted.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
The Roe overturn shouldn’t have anything to do with it. Texas has already established that pre-born have the same rights as anybody… Full props to this lady,
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
I took care of a pregnant woman who was shot in the uterus. Fetus died, she survived.
Perp charged with the death of the fetus. I don't remember the outcome of the charges.
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@George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
I took care of a pregnant woman who was shot in the uterus. Fetus died, she survived.
Perp charged with the death of the fetus. I don't remember the outcome of the charges.
It’s actually always been the case that different areas of the law define concepts differently. Indeed you’ve probably seen definition sections at the beginning of congressional bills many times. It seems counterintuitive when defining such concepts as ‘person’ or ‘murder’ but it’s common all the same (e.g. corporations are people under contract law but not, obviously, family law).
So it’s pretty much always been the case that fetuses can (say) inherit money, or a person assaulting a pregnant woman can get charged with harming or killing the fetus, even though the same fetus could be aborted the next day.