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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    The mens competition is the de facto open category, as is the case in all professional sports I'm aware of. If trans women are sad that they can't compete with the best men in the world, I hope they know that the other 99.999% of us can empathize.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • MikM Offline
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      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @Jolly said in Banned in the pool...:

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10932219/Elite-swimming-rules-transgender-athletes-went-male-puberty-compete-races.html

        They CAN compete if they transition before the age of 12.

        If somebody has transitioned before 18 their doctor needs to be drawn and quartered and their parents jailed (if they consented).

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        @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

        @Jolly said in Banned in the pool...:

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10932219/Elite-swimming-rules-transgender-athletes-went-male-puberty-compete-races.html

        They CAN compete if they transition before the age of 12.

        If somebody has transitioned before 18 their doctor needs to be drawn and quartered and their parents jailed (if they consented).

        As with what @mik said, I agree 100%

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        • F Offline
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          Friday
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          This ban is just for international competitions, right? What are the chances NCAA will follow suit?

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @Jolly said in Banned in the pool...:

            https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10932219/Elite-swimming-rules-transgender-athletes-went-male-puberty-compete-races.html

            They CAN compete if they transition before the age of 12.

            If somebody has transitioned before 18 their doctor needs to be drawn and quartered and their parents jailed (if they consented).

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

            They CAN compete if they transition before the age of 12.

            I wondered about that as well.

            Who in the world would subject his kid to hormones and surgery at age 9?

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            • KlausK Klaus

              @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

              They CAN compete if they transition before the age of 12.

              I wondered about that as well.

              Who in the world would subject his kid to hormones and surgery at age 9?

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              @Klaus said in Banned in the pool...:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

              They CAN compete if they transition before the age of 12.

              I wondered about that as well.

              Who in the world would subject his kid to hormones and surgery at age 9?

              Plenty of folks who seem to prioritize their own feeling of boundless tolerance and wokeness at the expense of their kid's mental health, and physical health too, I guess.

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                I wonder about the politics around doing real psychological studies of the efficacy of gender transformation in creating happy, healthy, well adjusted people. Would it even be possible to study this, or is it third rail?

                Education is extremely important.

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                  We know that 80-90% of cases of pubescent and prepubescent Gender Dysphoria do resolve themselves within a few years as the child goes through puberty. To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care. In fact, it is abuse and is putting these children at great risk.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    We know that 80-90% of cases of pubescent and prepubescent Gender Dysphoria do resolve themselves within a few years as the child goes through puberty. To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care. In fact, it is abuse and is putting these children at great risk.

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                    In fact, it is abuse and is putting these children at great risk.

                    Except for those who just knew she could never have been a boy.

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      We know that 80-90% of cases of pubescent and prepubescent Gender Dysphoria do resolve themselves within a few years as the child goes through puberty. To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care. In fact, it is abuse and is putting these children at great risk.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                      To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care.

                      No, it’s Ideology Affirming.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                        To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care.

                        No, it’s Ideology Affirming.

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                        LuFins Dad
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                        @jon-nyc said in Banned in the pool...:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                        To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care.

                        No, it’s Ideology Affirming.

                        One thought that occurred to me when I typed that was “It IS gender affirmative, but only to the adults that put transitioned themselves.” They need to see a huge number of kids transition in order to feel normal.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @jon-nyc said in Banned in the pool...:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                          To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care.

                          No, it’s Ideology Affirming.

                          One thought that occurred to me when I typed that was “It IS gender affirmative, but only to the adults that put transitioned themselves.” They need to see a huge number of kids transition in order to feel normal.

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                          @jon-nyc said in Banned in the pool...:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                          To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care.

                          No, it’s Ideology Affirming.

                          One thought that occurred to me when I typed that was “It IS gender affirmative, but only to the adults that put transitioned themselves.” They need to see a huge number of kids transition in order to feel normal.

                          That’s quite a sinister spin, but sadly probably accurate.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Every time I see this thread, my mind wants to change the title.

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                              Every time I see this thread, my mind wants to change the title.

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                              @brenda said in Banned in the pool...:

                              Every time I see this thread, my mind wants to change the title.

                              Pictures please!

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                @brenda said in Banned in the pool...:

                                Every time I see this thread, my mind wants to change the title.

                                Pictures please!

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                                @Mik said in Banned in the pool...:

                                @brenda said in Banned in the pool...:

                                Every time I see this thread, my mind wants to change the title.

                                Pictures please!

                                Did you see the movie with the Baby Ruth bar?

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Don't change the subject.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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