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    Jolly
    wrote on 19 Jun 2022, 21:16 last edited by
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10932219/Elite-swimming-rules-transgender-athletes-went-male-puberty-compete-races.html

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • J Jolly
      19 Jun 2022, 21:16

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10932219/Elite-swimming-rules-transgender-athletes-went-male-puberty-compete-races.html

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 19 Jun 2022, 21:38 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in Banned in the pool...:

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10932219/Elite-swimming-rules-transgender-athletes-went-male-puberty-compete-races.html

      They CAN compete if they transition before the age of 12.

      If somebody has transitioned before 18 their doctor needs to be drawn and quartered and their parents jailed (if they consented).

      The Brad

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 19 Jun 2022, 22:23 last edited by
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        Fabulous news.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 19 Jun 2022, 22:25 last edited by
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          Will be interesting to see how many compete in the new category.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Horace
            wrote on 19 Jun 2022, 23:11 last edited by
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            The mens competition is the de facto open category, as is the case in all professional sports I'm aware of. If trans women are sad that they can't compete with the best men in the world, I hope they know that the other 99.999% of us can empathize.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Mik
              wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 01:58 last edited by
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              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              • L LuFins Dad
                19 Jun 2022, 21:38

                @Jolly said in Banned in the pool...:

                https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10932219/Elite-swimming-rules-transgender-athletes-went-male-puberty-compete-races.html

                They CAN compete if they transition before the age of 12.

                If somebody has transitioned before 18 their doctor needs to be drawn and quartered and their parents jailed (if they consented).

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 05:03 last edited by
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                @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                @Jolly said in Banned in the pool...:

                https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10932219/Elite-swimming-rules-transgender-athletes-went-male-puberty-compete-races.html

                They CAN compete if they transition before the age of 12.

                If somebody has transitioned before 18 their doctor needs to be drawn and quartered and their parents jailed (if they consented).

                As with what @mik said, I agree 100%

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                  Friday
                  wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 10:07 last edited by
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                  This ban is just for international competitions, right? What are the chances NCAA will follow suit?

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                    19 Jun 2022, 21:38

                    @Jolly said in Banned in the pool...:

                    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10932219/Elite-swimming-rules-transgender-athletes-went-male-puberty-compete-races.html

                    They CAN compete if they transition before the age of 12.

                    If somebody has transitioned before 18 their doctor needs to be drawn and quartered and their parents jailed (if they consented).

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                    Klaus
                    wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 10:08 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                    They CAN compete if they transition before the age of 12.

                    I wondered about that as well.

                    Who in the world would subject his kid to hormones and surgery at age 9?

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                    • K Klaus
                      20 Jun 2022, 10:08

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                      They CAN compete if they transition before the age of 12.

                      I wondered about that as well.

                      Who in the world would subject his kid to hormones and surgery at age 9?

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                      89th
                      wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 11:26 last edited by
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                      @Klaus said in Banned in the pool...:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                      They CAN compete if they transition before the age of 12.

                      I wondered about that as well.

                      Who in the world would subject his kid to hormones and surgery at age 9?

                      Plenty of folks who seem to prioritize their own feeling of boundless tolerance and wokeness at the expense of their kid's mental health, and physical health too, I guess.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 16:12 last edited by
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                        I wonder about the politics around doing real psychological studies of the efficacy of gender transformation in creating happy, healthy, well adjusted people. Would it even be possible to study this, or is it third rail?

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 16:40 last edited by
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                          We know that 80-90% of cases of pubescent and prepubescent Gender Dysphoria do resolve themselves within a few years as the child goes through puberty. To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care. In fact, it is abuse and is putting these children at great risk.

                          The Brad

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                            20 Jun 2022, 16:40

                            We know that 80-90% of cases of pubescent and prepubescent Gender Dysphoria do resolve themselves within a few years as the child goes through puberty. To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care. In fact, it is abuse and is putting these children at great risk.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 17:04 last edited by
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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                            In fact, it is abuse and is putting these children at great risk.

                            Except for those who just knew she could never have been a boy.

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                            • L LuFins Dad
                              20 Jun 2022, 16:40

                              We know that 80-90% of cases of pubescent and prepubescent Gender Dysphoria do resolve themselves within a few years as the child goes through puberty. To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care. In fact, it is abuse and is putting these children at great risk.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 17:28 last edited by
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                              @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                              To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care.

                              No, it’s Ideology Affirming.

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                20 Jun 2022, 17:28

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                                To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care.

                                No, it’s Ideology Affirming.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 17:48 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in Banned in the pool...:

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                                To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care.

                                No, it’s Ideology Affirming.

                                One thought that occurred to me when I typed that was “It IS gender affirmative, but only to the adults that put transitioned themselves.” They need to see a huge number of kids transition in order to feel normal.

                                The Brad

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                                • L LuFins Dad
                                  20 Jun 2022, 17:48

                                  @jon-nyc said in Banned in the pool...:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                                  To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care.

                                  No, it’s Ideology Affirming.

                                  One thought that occurred to me when I typed that was “It IS gender affirmative, but only to the adults that put transitioned themselves.” They need to see a huge number of kids transition in order to feel normal.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 17:54 last edited by
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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Banned in the pool...:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Banned in the pool...:

                                  To introduce Puberty Blockers and Transitioning Therapies (both medical and psychological) is NOT Gender Affirming Care.

                                  No, it’s Ideology Affirming.

                                  One thought that occurred to me when I typed that was “It IS gender affirmative, but only to the adults that put transitioned themselves.” They need to see a huge number of kids transition in order to feel normal.

                                  That’s quite a sinister spin, but sadly probably accurate.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    brenda
                                    wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 20:23 last edited by
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                                    Every time I see this thread, my mind wants to change the title.

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                                      20 Jun 2022, 20:23

                                      Every time I see this thread, my mind wants to change the title.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 22:04 last edited by
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                                      @brenda said in Banned in the pool...:

                                      Every time I see this thread, my mind wants to change the title.

                                      Pictures please!

                                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                      • M Mik
                                        20 Jun 2022, 22:04

                                        @brenda said in Banned in the pool...:

                                        Every time I see this thread, my mind wants to change the title.

                                        Pictures please!

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                                        brenda
                                        wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 23:14 last edited by brenda
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                                        @Mik said in Banned in the pool...:

                                        @brenda said in Banned in the pool...:

                                        Every time I see this thread, my mind wants to change the title.

                                        Pictures please!

                                        Did you see the movie with the Baby Ruth bar?

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 21 Jun 2022, 01:28 last edited by
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                                          Don't change the subject.

                                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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