Robert E Lee
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wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 10:49 last edited by
https://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_82065b00212d320b466da6898609a2e7
Richmond judge blocks the state's removal of Robert E Lee statue.
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wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 14:30 last edited by
Mohammad owned slaves.
Maybe it’s time to raze those mosques....
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wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 14:31 last edited by
MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.
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MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.
wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 16:15 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Robert E Lee:
MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.
I thought his views were straight forward and Biblical. As with most things today, the LGBTQXYRZ community is engaged in higher forms of pretzel logic, claiming King was A-O-tay with homosexuality.
I thought Martin Luther actually said it better... " The vice of the Sodomites is an unparalleled enormity. It departs from the natural passion and desire, planted into nature by God, according to which the male has a passionate desire for the female. "
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wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 16:19 last edited by
This all started when we let the queers out.......,
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wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 17:02 last edited by
Athens in the 5th century BC?
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@jon-nyc said in Robert E Lee:
MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.
I thought his views were straight forward and Biblical. As with most things today, the LGBTQXYRZ community is engaged in higher forms of pretzel logic, claiming King was A-O-tay with homosexuality.
I thought Martin Luther actually said it better... " The vice of the Sodomites is an unparalleled enormity. It departs from the natural passion and desire, planted into nature by God, according to which the male has a passionate desire for the female. "
wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 17:48 last edited by@Jolly said in Robert E Lee:
@jon-nyc said in Robert E Lee:
MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.
I thought his views were straight forward and Biblical. As with most things today, the LGBTQXYRZ community is engaged in higher forms of pretzel logic, claiming King was A-O-tay with homosexuality.
I thought Martin Luther actually said it better... " The vice of the Sodomites is an unparalleled enormity. It departs from the natural passion and desire, planted into nature by God, according to which the male has a passionate desire for the female. "
He went on to say:
"They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection, and "these poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[W]e are at fault in not slaying them".
Oh silly me, he wasn't talking about homosexuals here, but about the Jews. Thank God nobody in Germany picked up on this sort of talk.
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@Jolly said in Robert E Lee:
@jon-nyc said in Robert E Lee:
MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.
I thought his views were straight forward and Biblical. As with most things today, the LGBTQXYRZ community is engaged in higher forms of pretzel logic, claiming King was A-O-tay with homosexuality.
I thought Martin Luther actually said it better... " The vice of the Sodomites is an unparalleled enormity. It departs from the natural passion and desire, planted into nature by God, according to which the male has a passionate desire for the female. "
He went on to say:
"They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection, and "these poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[W]e are at fault in not slaying them".
Oh silly me, he wasn't talking about homosexuals here, but about the Jews. Thank God nobody in Germany picked up on this sort of talk.
wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 18:01 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Robert E Lee:
@Jolly said in Robert E Lee:
@jon-nyc said in Robert E Lee:
MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.
I thought his views were straight forward and Biblical. As with most things today, the LGBTQXYRZ community is engaged in higher forms of pretzel logic, claiming King was A-O-tay with homosexuality.
I thought Martin Luther actually said it better... " The vice of the Sodomites is an unparalleled enormity. It departs from the natural passion and desire, planted into nature by God, according to which the male has a passionate desire for the female. "
He went on to say:
"They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection, and "these poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[W]e are at fault in not slaying them".
Oh silly me, he wasn't talking about homosexuals here, but about the Jews. Thank God nobody in Germany picked up on this sort of talk.
Do try to keep things straight, Phibby.
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wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 18:09 last edited by
It all started when we started letting Brits in.....
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wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 20:32 last edited by
Rum, sodomy and the lash, baby.
Not necessarily in that order.
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So in Richmond, VA they are removing a Robert E Lee statue that has stood for 130+ years. I was texting with my 3 buddies and they were shocked to hear that I thought the removal was a shame, and they also thought that “Lee decided to defend slavery, period” whereas my position is he was dedicated to his state, and he (and most who died in the war) deserve to have their dedication to their state honored.
Our text chain went on for a while, and we made a number of additional points (opinions and facts) but I’m curious.... your thoughts on Lee in the context of his legacy and history?
wrote on 11 Jun 2020, 18:24 last edited by@89th said in Robert E Lee:
So in Richmond, VA they are removing a Robert E Lee statue that has stood for 130+ years.
https://www.quotes.net/quote/15082
“There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
Robert E. LeeAmerican general who led the Confederate Armies in the American Civil War (1807-1870)
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@89th said in Robert E Lee:
So in Richmond, VA they are removing a Robert E Lee statue that has stood for 130+ years.
https://www.quotes.net/quote/15082
“There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
Robert E. LeeAmerican general who led the Confederate Armies in the American Civil War (1807-1870)
wrote on 11 Jun 2020, 18:34 last edited by@Copper “There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
Robert E. LeeThanks, Copper
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wrote on 11 Jun 2020, 19:10 last edited by
Regarding this quote of Gen. Lee's that Copper just posted, I wonder if it would be worth spreading it about in social media. It has a lot of power, and it could raise some consciousness.
There has to be some meeting of the minds. We can't snipe at each other forever. This could be a good way to begin.
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Regarding this quote of Gen. Lee's that Copper just posted, I wonder if it would be worth spreading it about in social media. It has a lot of power, and it could raise some consciousness.
There has to be some meeting of the minds. We can't snipe at each other forever. This could be a good way to begin.
wrote on 11 Jun 2020, 19:13 last edited by@Catseye3 said in Robert E Lee:
We can't snipe at each other forever
Oh yea???
It's been 17+ years since OCR and we're still going strong.
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@Catseye3 said in Robert E Lee:
We can't snipe at each other forever
Oh yea???
It's been 17+ years since OCR and we're still going strong.
wrote on 11 Jun 2020, 19:39 last edited by@Improviso Oh yea??? It's been 17+ years since OCR and we're still going strong.
Fine. Let's just keep on with the hate and the refusal to accommodate. We've been doing that since cave times.
Excerpt from Nightmare in Pink by John D. MacDonald, published in 1964:
"New York is where it is going to begin, I think. You can see it coming. The insect experts have learned how it works with locusts. Until locust population reaches a certain density, they all act like any grasshoppers. When the critical moment is reached, they turn savage and swarm, and try to eat the world. We’re nearing a critical point. One day soon two strangers will bump into each other at high noon in the middle of New York. But this time they won’t snarl and go on. They will stop and stare and then leap at each other’s throats in a dreadful silence. The infection will spread outward from that point. Old ladies will crack skulls with their deadly handbags. Cars will plunge down the crowded sidewalks. Drivers will be torn out of their cars and stomped. It will spread to all the huge cities of the world, and by dawn of the next day there will be a horrid silence of sprawled bodies and tumbled vehicles, gutted buildings and a few wisps of smoke. And through that silence will prowl a few of the most powerful ones, ragged and bloody, slowly tracking each other down."
And the few survivors will have the satisfaction of knowing that by God, at least they didn't give up anything to those bastards.
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@89th said in Robert E Lee:
So in Richmond, VA they are removing a Robert E Lee statue that has stood for 130+ years.
https://www.quotes.net/quote/15082
“There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
Robert E. LeeAmerican general who led the Confederate Armies in the American Civil War (1807-1870)
wrote on 11 Jun 2020, 21:32 last edited by@Copper said in Robert E Lee:
“There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
Robert E. LeeBut...but...but... the war had nothing to do with slavery!!!
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wrote on 11 Jun 2020, 21:44 last edited by
It was important for some
If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.
http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm
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wrote on 12 Jun 2020, 02:03 last edited by
His quotes above are clear.
The Lincoln Memorial has to go.
Sorry, but it is the right thing to do.
After all, he was the president of the confederate states before and after the civil war. And, according to some, during the war as well.
The buck stops with Abe.
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wrote on 12 Jun 2020, 02:40 last edited by
How come we can't have "like" buttons, like the old days?
Not that I'd ever use it. Just wondering.
