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  • MikM Mik

    It sounds very bad on its face, but I'd like to hear from the LEOs as to what their thinking was.

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    @Mik said in Stopping and Searching a Student Lacrosse Team:

    It sounds very bad on its face, but I'd like to hear from the LEOs as to what their thinking was.

    Doesn't sound like probable cause or possession of a search warrant for each traveler's personal possessions or Delaware State University equipment. The University and each student should file a joint action law suit against the County Sheriff for infringement of constitutional rights.

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      When contacted Monday morning, the Liberty County Sheriff's Office said it would have a statement by the end of the day but nothing was provided.

      Doesn’t sound promising.

      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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        4pm he’ll talk.

        https://www.wtoc.com/2022/05/10/liberty-co-sheriff-address-incident-involving-delaware-state-athletes/

        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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          4pm he’ll talk.

          https://www.wtoc.com/2022/05/10/liberty-co-sheriff-address-incident-involving-delaware-state-athletes/

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          @jon-nyc No one on the bus asked if they had a search warrant or probable cause?

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            4pm he’ll talk.

            https://www.wtoc.com/2022/05/10/liberty-co-sheriff-address-incident-involving-delaware-state-athletes/

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            @jon-nyc I'd like to know more, too. But the sheriff better have a good (and truthful) explanation. This looks bad.

            The worst thing he can do is lie to make his men look better than they were. If he does and it gets out, things could get, in the words of writer CJ Box, "real western". Better he 'fesses up and administers penalties, if that in fact is called for.

            Whatever the truth, it leaves a bad taste and a bad smell.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              More: https://www.wdel.com/news/humiliating-process-dsu-president-issues-statement-following-womens-lacrosse-bus-stop-in-georgia/article_d40ce736-cfac-11ec-a939-537099d7051b.html

              The story says it all started with two deputies and then grew to six, plus K9s. I wonder how many of the six were black. Oh, but [face slap] I guess that would depend on how many black deputies are in the department!

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                The sheriff is black. Not sure why they circled the bus with the dog.

                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2022/05/12/body-camera-footage-contradicts-sheriffs-account-georgia-bus-stop/9737447002/

                  The sheriff tried to defend the stop-and-search, but body cam videos contradict the sheriff’s statements.

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                    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2022/05/12/body-camera-footage-contradicts-sheriffs-account-georgia-bus-stop/9737447002/

                    The sheriff tried to defend the stop-and-search, but body cam videos contradict the sheriff’s statements.

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                    @Axtremus Yeah, and I'm still wondering why the dog on a routine traffic violation stop.

                    And if the dog alerted to drugs, why did the depitties not find any drugs???

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      So the case for this being a race thing, hinges on the cops escalating the investigation after noticing the bus was filled with black people. Seems everybody agrees that the initial stop was blind to that information.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        So the case for this being a race thing, hinges on the cops escalating the investigation after noticing the bus was filled with black people. Seems everybody agrees that the initial stop was blind to that information.

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                        @Horace said in Stopping and Searching a Student Lacrosse Team:

                        So the case for this being a race thing, hinges on the cops escalating the investigation after noticing the bus was filled with black people. Seems everybody agrees that the initial stop was blind to that information.

                        What color was the bus?

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                          @Horace said in Stopping and Searching a Student Lacrosse Team:

                          So the case for this being a race thing, hinges on the cops escalating the investigation after noticing the bus was filled with black people. Seems everybody agrees that the initial stop was blind to that information.

                          What color was the bus?

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                          @89th said in Stopping and Searching a Student Lacrosse Team:

                          @Horace said in Stopping and Searching a Student Lacrosse Team:

                          So the case for this being a race thing, hinges on the cops escalating the investigation after noticing the bus was filled with black people. Seems everybody agrees that the initial stop was blind to that information.

                          What color was the bus?

                          Apparently it was running pretty fast, if that tells you anything.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            It wasn't the color.

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