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    Axtremus
    wrote on 10 May 2022, 16:32 last edited by
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    ... in Georgia:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/lacrosse/2022/05/10/delaware-state-lacrosse-team-charter-bus-stopped-searched-in-georgia/9713909002/

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      Mik
      wrote on 10 May 2022, 16:51 last edited by
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      It sounds very bad on its face, but I'd like to hear from the LEOs as to what their thinking was.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        Horace
        wrote on 10 May 2022, 16:54 last edited by
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        One assumes that busloads of black people do not routinely get pulled over and searched for drugs. But I suppose if I believed the race narrative, I would assume that that is exactly what happens. I don't suppose the specifics of this incident will be disseminated, should it become clear that skin color was not a factor.

        Education is extremely important.

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          10 May 2022, 16:51

          It sounds very bad on its face, but I'd like to hear from the LEOs as to what their thinking was.

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          Ivorythumper
          wrote on 10 May 2022, 16:56 last edited by
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          @Mik said in Stopping and Searching a Student Lacrosse Team:

          It sounds very bad on its face, but I'd like to hear from the LEOs as to what their thinking was.

          Doesn't sound like probable cause or possession of a search warrant for each traveler's personal possessions or Delaware State University equipment. The University and each student should file a joint action law suit against the County Sheriff for infringement of constitutional rights.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 10 May 2022, 17:32 last edited by
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            When contacted Monday morning, the Liberty County Sheriff's Office said it would have a statement by the end of the day but nothing was provided.

            Doesn’t sound promising.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 10 May 2022, 17:33 last edited by
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              4pm he’ll talk.

              https://www.wtoc.com/2022/05/10/liberty-co-sheriff-address-incident-involving-delaware-state-athletes/

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • J jon-nyc
                10 May 2022, 17:33

                4pm he’ll talk.

                https://www.wtoc.com/2022/05/10/liberty-co-sheriff-address-incident-involving-delaware-state-athletes/

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                Ivorythumper
                wrote on 10 May 2022, 18:01 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc No one on the bus asked if they had a search warrant or probable cause?

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                  10 May 2022, 17:33

                  4pm he’ll talk.

                  https://www.wtoc.com/2022/05/10/liberty-co-sheriff-address-incident-involving-delaware-state-athletes/

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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on 10 May 2022, 18:07 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc I'd like to know more, too. But the sheriff better have a good (and truthful) explanation. This looks bad.

                  The worst thing he can do is lie to make his men look better than they were. If he does and it gets out, things could get, in the words of writer CJ Box, "real western". Better he 'fesses up and administers penalties, if that in fact is called for.

                  Whatever the truth, it leaves a bad taste and a bad smell.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    Catseye3
                    wrote on 10 May 2022, 18:36 last edited by
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                    More: https://www.wdel.com/news/humiliating-process-dsu-president-issues-statement-following-womens-lacrosse-bus-stop-in-georgia/article_d40ce736-cfac-11ec-a939-537099d7051b.html

                    The story says it all started with two deputies and then grew to six, plus K9s. I wonder how many of the six were black. Oh, but [face slap] I guess that would depend on how many black deputies are in the department!

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 11 May 2022, 02:30 last edited by
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                      The sheriff is black. Not sure why they circled the bus with the dog.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 13 May 2022, 13:33 last edited by
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                        https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2022/05/12/body-camera-footage-contradicts-sheriffs-account-georgia-bus-stop/9737447002/

                        The sheriff tried to defend the stop-and-search, but body cam videos contradict the sheriff’s statements.

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                          https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2022/05/12/body-camera-footage-contradicts-sheriffs-account-georgia-bus-stop/9737447002/

                          The sheriff tried to defend the stop-and-search, but body cam videos contradict the sheriff’s statements.

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                          Catseye3
                          wrote on 13 May 2022, 13:35 last edited by
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                          @Axtremus Yeah, and I'm still wondering why the dog on a routine traffic violation stop.

                          And if the dog alerted to drugs, why did the depitties not find any drugs???

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 13 May 2022, 14:10 last edited by
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                            So the case for this being a race thing, hinges on the cops escalating the investigation after noticing the bus was filled with black people. Seems everybody agrees that the initial stop was blind to that information.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              13 May 2022, 14:10

                              So the case for this being a race thing, hinges on the cops escalating the investigation after noticing the bus was filled with black people. Seems everybody agrees that the initial stop was blind to that information.

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                              89th
                              wrote on 13 May 2022, 14:27 last edited by
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                              @Horace said in Stopping and Searching a Student Lacrosse Team:

                              So the case for this being a race thing, hinges on the cops escalating the investigation after noticing the bus was filled with black people. Seems everybody agrees that the initial stop was blind to that information.

                              What color was the bus?

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                                13 May 2022, 14:27

                                @Horace said in Stopping and Searching a Student Lacrosse Team:

                                So the case for this being a race thing, hinges on the cops escalating the investigation after noticing the bus was filled with black people. Seems everybody agrees that the initial stop was blind to that information.

                                What color was the bus?

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 13 May 2022, 14:28 last edited by
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                                @89th said in Stopping and Searching a Student Lacrosse Team:

                                @Horace said in Stopping and Searching a Student Lacrosse Team:

                                So the case for this being a race thing, hinges on the cops escalating the investigation after noticing the bus was filled with black people. Seems everybody agrees that the initial stop was blind to that information.

                                What color was the bus?

                                Apparently it was running pretty fast, if that tells you anything.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 13 May 2022, 14:29 last edited by
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                                  It wasn't the color.

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