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  • 89th8 89th

    @Horace your analysis through these 2 weeks has been terrific btw. Well articulated.

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    @89th said in Defund the Police:

    @Horace your analysis through these 2 weeks has been terrific btw. Well articulated.

    Thanks 89th!

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      I don't think I'll ever see in my life a popular and high-status idea any dumber or more simply disprovable by basic statistics, than this idea that white cops murdering innocent black people is among our most pressing social issues. That we need to take measures as drastic as getting rid of police altogether in order to solve it.

      That said, I'm less worried about dissolving police departments than I am about all the socialism that the left will attempt to smuggle in along with their solutions to the problem of white cops murdering innocent black people.

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      @Horace said in Defund the Police:

      the problem of white cops murdering innocent black people.

      Yes.

      The republican position on this will eventually be simply denial.

      This can easily be backed-up by statistics.

      That doesn't matter, it will be a nazi racist position.

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        Camden is being touted by CNN as having disbanded its police force. The fine print is a new one was created.

        The really fine printin Wikipedia is that it doubled in size.

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          Camden is being touted by CNN as having disbanded its police force. The fine print is a new one was created.

          The really fine printin Wikipedia is that it doubled in size.

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            In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.

            I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.

              I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.

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              @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

              In the event none of the suburbs ever joined, so it still just polices the city.

              I think the move cut the average pay/benefits package by half.

              In that sense defunding of the police is accurate.

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                This issue has become similar to the immigration debate. As it became necessary for people to say out loud that they do believe immigration laws have a place in society, or to explicitly deny that, it now seems necessary for us to say out loud that police are useful and deserving of our tax dollars, or to explicitly deny that.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Explicitly denying it still seems quite rare.

                  But there's probably a lot of 'motte and bailey' arguments being adopted, so it's hard to say.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    I watched the MSM news tonight, I think ABC.
                    Wow, we're in trouble, at least based on their segments. So incredibly one-sided and biased, I'm sure some would quip "Pravda."
                    If politicians will not stick up for anything, seems to me there will be some police departments that will need to push back. If a police department has blue flu (if that's what it's called), that may be a necessary wake up call to trigger some reasonableness.

                    There is only one politician that stands up, and that is Trump. But if he keeps tweeting that stupid crazy shit like he did today. . .

                    I figured maybe he is trying to get himself banned on Twitter, for reasons I can't figure. If not that, then he really is a pompous ass and a bully, and will lose in November based upon his steady stream of nonsense.

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                    • AxtremusA Away
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                      Donald Trump is defunding the police
                      He’s proposed cuts in budget after budget, and is holding up needed fiscal aid.
                      https://www.vox.com/2020/6/16/21286669/donald-trump-is-defunding-the-police

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                        Good

                        Stop spending

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                          Apparently this cop was suspended - still funny.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            Apparently this cop was suspended - still funny.

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                            @George-K said in Defund the Police:

                            Apparently this cop was suspended - still funny.

                            George, the "Link to Tweet" showed up as part of your post. That worked great and yes, funny and ironic!

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              Donald Trump is defunding the police
                              He’s proposed cuts in budget after budget, and is holding up needed fiscal aid.
                              https://www.vox.com/2020/6/16/21286669/donald-trump-is-defunding-the-police

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                              @Axtremus said in Defund the Police:

                              Donald Trump is defunding the police
                              He’s proposed cuts in budget after budget, and is holding up needed fiscal aid.
                              https://www.vox.com/2020/6/16/21286669/donald-trump-is-defunding-the-police

                              Are you truly that fucking stupid? COPS has Jack shit to do with police. It's the "Community Oriented Protection Services". In other words, it's another Democrat waste of money to pay a bunch of leftwing nutjobs to go around their community and ask the thugs if they want to sign up for finger painting classes.

                              This is why none of you dumbass democrats should be trusted. All up and down the chain, nothing but morons.

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                                https://nypost.com/2020/08/02/there-have-now-been-more-nyc-shootings-this-year-than-in-all-of-2019/

                                Can’t blame the violence on federal officers.

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                                  Yeah Chicago has similar gains. Probably many cities.

                                  If only there existed a national movement focused on black lives that had some sway with our municipal governments. They could talk some sense into these defunding efforts.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Yeah Chicago has similar gains. Probably many cities.

                                    If only there existed a national movement focused on black lives that had some sway with our municipal governments. They could talk some sense into these defunding efforts.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

                                    Yeah Chicago has similar gains. Probably many cities.

                                    If only there existed a national movement focused on black lives that had some sway with our municipal governments. They could talk some sense into these defunding efforts.

                                    In the short run at least BLM could actually have the net effect of having a negative effect? What what a dashboard look like?

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                                      This isn’t new nor was it not predicted by me and many others. Google ‘Ferguson Effect’.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        This isn’t new nor was it not predicted by me and many others. Google ‘Ferguson Effect’.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Defund the Police:

                                        This isn’t new nor was it not predicted by me and many others. Google ‘Ferguson Effect’.

                                        All true but it is certainly worth repeating. Never will see MSM highlighting it or justifying as necessary sacrifice.

                                        Mention it to most liberals and watch their heads explode.

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