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Taking On The Mouse

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    (h/t Cindy)

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/us/reedy-creek-disney-florida/index.html

    'Disney's self-governing special district, the Reedy Creek Improvement District, says that Florida's move to dissolve the district next year is not legal unless the state pays off Reedy Creek's extensive debts.

    ... Reedy Creek pointed out that the 1967 law [that created the district] also includes a pledge from Florida to its bondholders. The law states that Florida "will not in any way impair the rights or remedies of the holders ... until all such bonds together with interest thereon, and all costs and expenses in connection with any act or proceeding by or on behalf of such holders, are fully met and discharged."

    The amount of Reedy Creak's outstanding bond debt is estimated to be about 1 billion dollars.

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    @Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:

    The amount of Reedy Creak's outstanding bond debt is estimated to be about 1 billion dollars.

    Tax the rich!

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:

      The amount of Reedy Creak's outstanding bond debt is estimated to be about 1 billion dollars.

      Tax the rich!

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      Axtremus
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      #121

      @George-K said in Taking On The Mouse:

      Tax the rich!

      Do you think DeSanti will incorporate that into his campaign platform or his next budget proposal for Florida?

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      • taiwan_girlT Online
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        #122

        This is a good case of doing something for publicity and not thinking it to the long term.

        Since this will not take effect for one year, I will predict that sometime over the next year, the law will very very quietly be cancelled.

        Disney will claim victory. Florida politicians will claim victory in that they will say that Disney will keep out of politics. And, all will be back to where it was.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          #123

          Doubt it.

          The deal will get reworked. It's not going back to the original deal.

          Florida has the leverage. While they stand to acquire a billion dollar expenditure, how much money do you think Disney has tied up into the Disneyworld complex?

          DeSantis slapped the mouse's nose and it worked. He gained political capital, Disney might be a little less likely to poke their nose outside of their company business and at the end of the day, a new deal will be struck to the benefit of both parties.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Axtremus
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            Link to video

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              Jolly
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              Link to video

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                This was from a couple of weeks ago. It includes Ben talking about a Trans man who is horrified over the "glitter bomb" of the transphilic recruitment on the internet...

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                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • CopperC Online
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                  Good

                  Let's stop the idiots

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                  • AxtremusA Away
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                    Axtremus
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                    Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                    Link to video

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                      George K
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                      #129

                      How does one pronounce LBGTQUA+?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                        Link to video

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                        @Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:

                        Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                        Link to video

                        Watch to the end. Virtually no likewise participation on the west coast Disney property. Media anecdotes of protests are, as always, only in service of whatever is being protested about. Protests are in fact not newsworthy per se. The narrative being supported is only sometimes newsworthy.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                          Link to video

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                          Copper
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                          @Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:

                          Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                          Those are disney employees found by NBC that want disney to encourage kindergarten students to be taught about alternate lifestyles.

                          Fortunately, very few disney employees support this stupid idea.

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                              AxtremusA Away
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                              Axtremus
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                              @LuFins-Dad said in Taking On The Mouse:

                              Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                              To protest? For which side?

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                                Is Finlay old enough to enjoy it?

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                  Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                                  Is Finlay old enough to enjoy it?

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                  Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                                  Is Finlay old enough to enjoy it?

                                  You think we’re going for his sake? We’re really going for the 50 year old, 45 year old, and the 19 year old!

                                  Seriously? We think he will enjoy it. He won’t remember it, but he will have fun. When we had visited Lucas back in February, it was warm enough that we all went to Busch Gardens for the day. Finley enjoyed the toddler rides very much. Beyond that, there’s so much to see and experience… The parades, the fireworks show, and just the general sights are fun for everybody. There are also play areas that we can alternate taking him to while the other adults go on a bigger ride.

                                  Aw I mentioned above, he won’t really remember it, but we will!

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                                    AxtremusA Away
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                                    Axtremus
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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                    Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                                    Did you make the trip? Got pictures to share?

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                                      https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article272189318.html

                                      Republican lawmakers on Monday released a new plan: Rename the district and let Gov. Ron DeSantis choose the people in charge. …

                                      https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=77294

                                      The last legislative attempt to dissolve the special district tanked (it never address the $1 Billion bond owed by the district). This new plan gave up on dissolving the district; it seeks to instead (1) rename the district, (2) let the governor appoint the board, and (3) strip certain powers from the district (e.g., powers concerning building airport, building nuclear power plant, eminent domain).

                                      Now I suppose we wait and see whether/how this new plan holds up.

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                                      • taiwan_girlT Online
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                                        Didn't read the article, but saw a headline that basically said that Disney is going to just wait for DeSantis to run for President and things will probably go back to the way they were before.

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                          Didn't read the article, but saw a headline that basically said that Disney is going to just wait for DeSantis to run for President and things will probably go back to the way they were before.

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                                          @taiwan_girl said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                          Didn't read the article, but saw a headline that basically said that Disney is going to just wait for DeSantis to run for President and things will probably go back to the way they were before.

                                          There is a lot of waiting… Not just on DeSantis. A lot of people want to see what way Iger goes.

                                          We tried watching 2 new Disney Shows/Movies recently. Willow was a show that I was really looking forward to. The 1st episode was like teenage lesbian fanfic. The gratuitous makeout scene between the two teenage female protagonists looked like it was written to appeal to 45 year old male porn addicted pervs. We turned it off before we ever got to Warwick Davis and don’t really feel the need yo watch any more. The streaming numbers for the show are abysmal.

                                          The next movie we went to watch was the gag worthy Strange World. We got through 10 minutes and turned that off. It completely bombed in the box office, as well.

                                          The tide is changing. Let’s see how Iger reacts.

                                          The Brad

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