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Taking On The Mouse

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #113

    It’s not novel.

    Remember Trump stopped a federal AWS contract because the WaPo said mean things about him? He also tried to block the ATT Time Warner merger because he didn’t like CNN.

    Elizabeth Warren outlined a whole plan to break up five companies she thinks are mean.

    I’m sure there are plenty of other examples actually done by democrats too, not just proposed. I’m kind of surprised George hasn’t already posted a list.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @Jolly said in Taking On The Mouse:

      @jon-nyc said in Taking On The Mouse:

      Mask mandates are a social issue.

      If the Biden administration punished companies for taking a vocal stance against them that would be legitimate in your mind?

      Good question, but mask mandates are also a workplace and productivity issue. That's a corporate issue, especially in healthcare.

      Recruiting is a corporate issue too.

      Social issues affect us in the workplace as well as the home.

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      Jolly
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      #114

      @jon-nyc said in Taking On The Mouse:

      @Jolly said in Taking On The Mouse:

      @jon-nyc said in Taking On The Mouse:

      Mask mandates are a social issue.

      If the Biden administration punished companies for taking a vocal stance against them that would be legitimate in your mind?

      Good question, but mask mandates are also a workplace and productivity issue. That's a corporate issue, especially in healthcare.

      Recruiting is a corporate issue too.

      Social issues affect us in the workplace as well as the home.

      So...A mandate that affects everybody vs. less than 5% of possible recruits?

      Ain't no way to run a railroad...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        @jon-nyc said in Taking On The Mouse:

        @Ivorythumper said in Taking On The Mouse:

        @jon-nyc said in Taking On The Mouse:

        Driving on public roads is a privilege. Maybe they can take licenses away from every Disney employee who publicly opposed the bill.

        No, driving on public roads is not a privilege. It is a necessary condition for the commonweal.

        Maybe you’re making a normative statement not a positive one? But as a point of law you are incorrect.

        (It has real world ramifications, for example the legal standard the state must meet to revoke the privilege)

        The fact that the State must act with due process to deprive someone of the right to drive on public roads tells us it is not a privilege. One has a natural right to access to all the goods of a society -- this is not privilege.

        By your legal compass, walking freely on the sidewalk is also a privilege.

        A driver's license is not a privilege, it readily must be given to anyone who demonstrates a basic competency and provides proof of legal and financial responsibility to protect the public and other private parties against financial harm. That the State enacts some regulation for the common good does not make it a privilege any more than a marriage license creates a privilege to marry, as distinct from ordering a natural right toward the common good.

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        Copper
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        #115

        @Ivorythumper said in Taking On The Mouse:

        A driver's license is not a privilege,

        I believe that might depend on the driver's citizenship.

        My understanding is that in at least 16 states undocumented immigrants can just get a driver's license.

        But a citizen must earn the privilege.

        This is changing and, believe it or not, changing to make it slightly more difficult for illegals to get licensed.

        Of course it varies by state.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          It’s not novel.

          Remember Trump stopped a federal AWS contract because the WaPo said mean things about him? He also tried to block the ATT Time Warner merger because he didn’t like CNN.

          Elizabeth Warren outlined a whole plan to break up five companies she thinks are mean.

          I’m sure there are plenty of other examples actually done by democrats too, not just proposed. I’m kind of surprised George hasn’t already posted a list.

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          Ivorythumper
          wrote on last edited by
          #116

          @jon-nyc said in Taking On The Mouse:

          It’s not novel.

          Remember Trump stopped a federal AWS contract because the WaPo said mean things about him?

          No I don't, and neither do you.

          That is only the allegation

          He also tried to block the ATT Time Warner merger because he didn’t like CNN.

          Even CNN concedes that's just a theory

          These may or may not have happened as you claim, but you seem quick to make unsubstantiated statements opportunistically as if they were dispostive....

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #117

            Maybe Elon can buy Disney? Or the Daily Wire can build their own theme parks and entertainment megapoly.

            I can’t wait to see the Ben Shapiro take on Encanto!

            The Brad

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              #118

              Disney needs to concentrate on their core business and tend to their knitting...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                #119

                (h/t Cindy)

                https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/us/reedy-creek-disney-florida/index.html

                'Disney's self-governing special district, the Reedy Creek Improvement District, says that Florida's move to dissolve the district next year is not legal unless the state pays off Reedy Creek's extensive debts.

                ... Reedy Creek pointed out that the 1967 law [that created the district] also includes a pledge from Florida to its bondholders. The law states that Florida "will not in any way impair the rights or remedies of the holders ... until all such bonds together with interest thereon, and all costs and expenses in connection with any act or proceeding by or on behalf of such holders, are fully met and discharged."

                The amount of Reedy Creak's outstanding bond debt is estimated to be about 1 billion dollars.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  (h/t Cindy)

                  https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/us/reedy-creek-disney-florida/index.html

                  'Disney's self-governing special district, the Reedy Creek Improvement District, says that Florida's move to dissolve the district next year is not legal unless the state pays off Reedy Creek's extensive debts.

                  ... Reedy Creek pointed out that the 1967 law [that created the district] also includes a pledge from Florida to its bondholders. The law states that Florida "will not in any way impair the rights or remedies of the holders ... until all such bonds together with interest thereon, and all costs and expenses in connection with any act or proceeding by or on behalf of such holders, are fully met and discharged."

                  The amount of Reedy Creak's outstanding bond debt is estimated to be about 1 billion dollars.

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                  George K
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                  #120

                  @Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:

                  The amount of Reedy Creak's outstanding bond debt is estimated to be about 1 billion dollars.

                  Tax the rich!

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    @Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:

                    The amount of Reedy Creak's outstanding bond debt is estimated to be about 1 billion dollars.

                    Tax the rich!

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                    #121

                    @George-K said in Taking On The Mouse:

                    Tax the rich!

                    Do you think DeSanti will incorporate that into his campaign platform or his next budget proposal for Florida?

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                      #122

                      This is a good case of doing something for publicity and not thinking it to the long term.

                      Since this will not take effect for one year, I will predict that sometime over the next year, the law will very very quietly be cancelled.

                      Disney will claim victory. Florida politicians will claim victory in that they will say that Disney will keep out of politics. And, all will be back to where it was.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #123

                        Doubt it.

                        The deal will get reworked. It's not going back to the original deal.

                        Florida has the leverage. While they stand to acquire a billion dollar expenditure, how much money do you think Disney has tied up into the Disneyworld complex?

                        DeSantis slapped the mouse's nose and it worked. He gained political capital, Disney might be a little less likely to poke their nose outside of their company business and at the end of the day, a new deal will be struck to the benefit of both parties.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Axtremus
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                          #124

                          Link to video

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #125

                            Link to video

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #126

                              This was from a couple of weeks ago. It includes Ben talking about a Trans man who is horrified over the "glitter bomb" of the transphilic recruitment on the internet...

                              Link to video

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Copper
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                                #127

                                Good

                                Let's stop the idiots

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                                  Axtremus
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                                  Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                                  Link to video

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #129

                                    How does one pronounce LBGTQUA+?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                                      Link to video

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                                      #130

                                      @Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                      Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                                      Link to video

                                      Watch to the end. Virtually no likewise participation on the west coast Disney property. Media anecdotes of protests are, as always, only in service of whatever is being protested about. Protests are in fact not newsworthy per se. The narrative being supported is only sometimes newsworthy.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                                        Link to video

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #131

                                        @Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                        Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                                        Those are disney employees found by NBC that want disney to encourage kindergarten students to be taught about alternate lifestyles.

                                        Fortunately, very few disney employees support this stupid idea.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #132

                                          Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                                          The Brad

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