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Taking On The Mouse

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    Axtremus
    wrote on 27 Apr 2022, 23:30 last edited by
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    (h/t Cindy)

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/us/reedy-creek-disney-florida/index.html

    'Disney's self-governing special district, the Reedy Creek Improvement District, says that Florida's move to dissolve the district next year is not legal unless the state pays off Reedy Creek's extensive debts.

    ... Reedy Creek pointed out that the 1967 law [that created the district] also includes a pledge from Florida to its bondholders. The law states that Florida "will not in any way impair the rights or remedies of the holders ... until all such bonds together with interest thereon, and all costs and expenses in connection with any act or proceeding by or on behalf of such holders, are fully met and discharged."

    The amount of Reedy Creak's outstanding bond debt is estimated to be about 1 billion dollars.

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      27 Apr 2022, 23:30

      (h/t Cindy)

      https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/us/reedy-creek-disney-florida/index.html

      'Disney's self-governing special district, the Reedy Creek Improvement District, says that Florida's move to dissolve the district next year is not legal unless the state pays off Reedy Creek's extensive debts.

      ... Reedy Creek pointed out that the 1967 law [that created the district] also includes a pledge from Florida to its bondholders. The law states that Florida "will not in any way impair the rights or remedies of the holders ... until all such bonds together with interest thereon, and all costs and expenses in connection with any act or proceeding by or on behalf of such holders, are fully met and discharged."

      The amount of Reedy Creak's outstanding bond debt is estimated to be about 1 billion dollars.

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      George K
      wrote on 27 Apr 2022, 23:31 last edited by
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      @Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:

      The amount of Reedy Creak's outstanding bond debt is estimated to be about 1 billion dollars.

      Tax the rich!

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        27 Apr 2022, 23:31

        @Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:

        The amount of Reedy Creak's outstanding bond debt is estimated to be about 1 billion dollars.

        Tax the rich!

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 28 Apr 2022, 02:27 last edited by
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        @George-K said in Taking On The Mouse:

        Tax the rich!

        Do you think DeSanti will incorporate that into his campaign platform or his next budget proposal for Florida?

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 29 Apr 2022, 12:58 last edited by
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          This is a good case of doing something for publicity and not thinking it to the long term.

          Since this will not take effect for one year, I will predict that sometime over the next year, the law will very very quietly be cancelled.

          Disney will claim victory. Florida politicians will claim victory in that they will say that Disney will keep out of politics. And, all will be back to where it was.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 29 Apr 2022, 14:07 last edited by
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            Doubt it.

            The deal will get reworked. It's not going back to the original deal.

            Florida has the leverage. While they stand to acquire a billion dollar expenditure, how much money do you think Disney has tied up into the Disneyworld complex?

            DeSantis slapped the mouse's nose and it worked. He gained political capital, Disney might be a little less likely to poke their nose outside of their company business and at the end of the day, a new deal will be struck to the benefit of both parties.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 2 May 2022, 05:56 last edited by
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              Link to video

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                Jolly
                wrote on 2 May 2022, 11:19 last edited by
                #125

                Link to video

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 2 May 2022, 11:51 last edited by
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                  This was from a couple of weeks ago. It includes Ben talking about a Trans man who is horrified over the "glitter bomb" of the transphilic recruitment on the internet...

                  Link to video

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 2 May 2022, 15:11 last edited by
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                    Good

                    Let's stop the idiots

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 2 May 2022, 17:23 last edited by
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                      Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                      Link to video

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                        George K
                        wrote on 2 May 2022, 17:30 last edited by
                        #129

                        How does one pronounce LBGTQUA+?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          2 May 2022, 17:23

                          Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                          Link to video

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 2 May 2022, 17:35 last edited by
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                          @Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:

                          Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                          Link to video

                          Watch to the end. Virtually no likewise participation on the west coast Disney property. Media anecdotes of protests are, as always, only in service of whatever is being protested about. Protests are in fact not newsworthy per se. The narrative being supported is only sometimes newsworthy.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            2 May 2022, 17:23

                            Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                            Link to video

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 2 May 2022, 18:09 last edited by
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                            @Axtremus said in Taking On The Mouse:

                            Well, if you want to see what Disney employees think about this …

                            Those are disney employees found by NBC that want disney to encourage kindergarten students to be taught about alternate lifestyles.

                            Fortunately, very few disney employees support this stupid idea.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 2 May 2022, 23:38 last edited by
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                              Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                              The Brad

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                                2 May 2022, 23:38

                                Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 3 May 2022, 01:19 last edited by
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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                                To protest? For which side?

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                                  2 May 2022, 23:38

                                  Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 3 May 2022, 03:28 last edited by
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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                  Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                                  Is Finlay old enough to enjoy it?

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    3 May 2022, 03:28

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                    Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                                    Is Finlay old enough to enjoy it?

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 3 May 2022, 12:03 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                    Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                                    Is Finlay old enough to enjoy it?

                                    You think we’re going for his sake? We’re really going for the 50 year old, 45 year old, and the 19 year old!

                                    Seriously? We think he will enjoy it. He won’t remember it, but he will have fun. When we had visited Lucas back in February, it was warm enough that we all went to Busch Gardens for the day. Finley enjoyed the toddler rides very much. Beyond that, there’s so much to see and experience… The parades, the fireworks show, and just the general sights are fun for everybody. There are also play areas that we can alternate taking him to while the other adults go on a bigger ride.

                                    Aw I mentioned above, he won’t really remember it, but we will!

                                    The Brad

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                                      2 May 2022, 23:38

                                      Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 7 Feb 2023, 01:29 last edited by
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Taking On The Mouse:

                                      Well, we’re going to the Magic Kingdom a week from Thursday. We will try to get some pictures for ya’ll…

                                      Did you make the trip? Got pictures to share?

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 7 Feb 2023, 01:37 last edited by Axtremus 2 Jul 2023, 01:38
                                        #137

                                        https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article272189318.html

                                        Republican lawmakers on Monday released a new plan: Rename the district and let Gov. Ron DeSantis choose the people in charge. …

                                        https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=77294

                                        The last legislative attempt to dissolve the special district tanked (it never address the $1 Billion bond owed by the district). This new plan gave up on dissolving the district; it seeks to instead (1) rename the district, (2) let the governor appoint the board, and (3) strip certain powers from the district (e.g., powers concerning building airport, building nuclear power plant, eminent domain).

                                        Now I suppose we wait and see whether/how this new plan holds up.

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on 7 Feb 2023, 01:45 last edited by
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                                          Didn't read the article, but saw a headline that basically said that Disney is going to just wait for DeSantis to run for President and things will probably go back to the way they were before.

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