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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 17:48 last edited by jon-nyc
    #595

    In my experience there are often executives in charge of a big program and they are the ones that often have to wrestle it to the ground and are heavily involved and have the political power to remove obstacles.

    Then there are “project management office” types that run around with gant charts and spreadsheets and ask people when their milestone will be met.

    There are a lot more of the latter than the former.

    A colleague of mine used to call them project management bunnies. That was politically incorrect even then.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
    H M 2 Replies Last reply 16 Nov 2022, 18:03
    • G George K
      16 Nov 2022, 16:51

      Musk: "Work hard or get out."

      Elon Musk issued an ultimatum to Twitter employees Wednesday morning: commit to a new “hardcore” Twitter or leave the company with severance pay.
      Employees were told they had to a sign a pledge to stay on with the company. “If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below,” read the email to all staff, which linked to an online form.
      Make your technology a force for good. Sign up for The Tech Friend newsletter with Shira Ovide.

      Anyone who did not sign the pledge by 5 p.m. Eastern time Thursday would receive three months of severance pay, the message said.
      In the midnight email, which was obtained by The Washington Post, Musk said Twitter “will need to be extremely hardcore” going forward. “This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.”
      The pledge email, paired with a new policy mandating a return to the office, is expected to lead to even more attrition at a company whose staff Musk had already reduced by half. Musk said Twitter would be more of an engineer-driven operation going forward — and while the design and product-management areas would still be important and report to him, he said, “those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.”

      The horror.

      First no free lunches.
      Then you have to show up at work.
      Then, you actually have to work!

      I imagine all those foosball tables will rake in a handy profit on ebay.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 17:48 last edited by
      #596

      @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

      Musk: "Work hard or get out."

      Elon Musk issued an ultimatum to Twitter employees Wednesday morning: commit to a new “hardcore” Twitter or leave the company with severance pay.
      Employees were told they had to a sign a pledge to stay on with the company. “If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below,” read the email to all staff, which linked to an online form.
      Make your technology a force for good. Sign up for The Tech Friend newsletter with Shira Ovide.

      Anyone who did not sign the pledge by 5 p.m. Eastern time Thursday would receive three months of severance pay, the message said.
      In the midnight email, which was obtained by The Washington Post, Musk said Twitter “will need to be extremely hardcore” going forward. “This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.”
      The pledge email, paired with a new policy mandating a return to the office, is expected to lead to even more attrition at a company whose staff Musk had already reduced by half. Musk said Twitter would be more of an engineer-driven operation going forward — and while the design and product-management areas would still be important and report to him, he said, “those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.”

      The horror.

      First no free lunches.
      Then you have to show up at work.
      Then, you actually have to work!

      I imagine all those foosball tables will rake in a handy profit on ebay.

      He should personally sign them and authenticate they came from Twitter HQ. Would likely add a lot of value…

      The Brad

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      • J jon-nyc
        16 Nov 2022, 17:48

        In my experience there are often executives in charge of a big program and they are the ones that often have to wrestle it to the ground and are heavily involved and have the political power to remove obstacles.

        Then there are “project management office” types that run around with gant charts and spreadsheets and ask people when their milestone will be met.

        There are a lot more of the latter than the former.

        A colleague of mine used to call them project management bunnies. That was politically incorrect even then.

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        Horace
        wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 18:03 last edited by
        #597

        @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        In my experience there are often executives in charge of a big program and they are the ones that often have to wrestle it to the ground and are heavily involved and have the political power to remove obstacles.

        Then there are “project management office” types that run around with gant charts and spreadsheets and ask people when their milestone will be met.

        There are a lot more of the latter than the former.

        A colleague of mine used to call them project management bunnies. That was politically incorrect even then.

        There is a certain correlation with genetic phenotype which is difficult not to notice.

        Education is extremely important.

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          89th
          wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 18:31 last edited by
          #598

          From: Elon Musk
          To: Team [at Twitter]
          Subj. A Fork in the Road
          Date: Nov. 16, 2022 [time stamp removed]

          Going forward, to build a breakthrough Twitter 2.0 and succeed in an increasingly competitive world, we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.

          Twitter will also be much more engineering-driven. Design and product management will still be very important and report to me, but those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.

          At its heart, Twitter is a software and servers company, so l think this makes sense.

          If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below:

          [Link removed]

          Anyone who has not done so by 5pm ET tomorrow (Thursday) will receive three months of severance.

          Whatever decision you make, thank you for your efforts to make Twitter successful.

          Elon

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            89th
            wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 18:32 last edited by
            #599

            Sorry for formatting. Above is an email from Elon to all of Twitter this morning. I LOL'd at his style. I dig it, mainly because I don't work there, but he is a catalyst for change, like it or not!

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              Horace
              wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 18:34 last edited by
              #600

              He's good at demanding more, but not so keen on providing more compensation. It'll appeal to some. It would have appealed to me when I was younger.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Copper
                wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 19:01 last edited by
                #601

                Yes, I would have loved that when I was younger.

                The key is that Mr. Musk must follow through and compensate those who earn it.

                A 1 Reply Last reply 16 Nov 2022, 20:04
                • C Copper
                  16 Nov 2022, 19:01

                  Yes, I would have loved that when I was younger.

                  The key is that Mr. Musk must follow through and compensate those who earn it.

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 20:04 last edited by
                  #602

                  @Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                  The key is that Mr. Musk must follow through and compensate those who earn it.

                  There is nothing to follow through. Musk has not promise any compensation to be earned.

                  C 1 Reply Last reply 16 Nov 2022, 22:22
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 20:05 last edited by
                    #603

                    At no point in my career would I have reacted to that in a positive way.

                    Massively rich d-bag asks me to give up my private life so he can make even more obscene amounts money in the hope of a yet-to-be-specified reward of some sort?

                    How does 'fuck off, Elon' grab you?

                    I was only joking

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                      Klaus
                      wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 20:12 last edited by
                      #604

                      Elon's management approach looks rather heavy-handed.

                      He is pissing off even those employees who support his general course of action.

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                      • A Axtremus
                        16 Nov 2022, 20:04

                        @Copper said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                        The key is that Mr. Musk must follow through and compensate those who earn it.

                        There is nothing to follow through. Musk has not promise any compensation to be earned.

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 22:22 last edited by
                        #605

                        @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                        Musk has not promise any compensation to be earned.

                        Compensation takes many forms

                        And whether he promises it doesn't matter.

                        He must deliver it.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 00:28 last edited by
                          #606

                          Kind of funny.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            George K
                            wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 00:41 last edited by
                            #607

                            OK, if you were the owner of a business whose employees said this type of stuff about you, why would you even think about keeping them on?

                            Their thoughts may or may not be justified, and they may or may not be right.

                            But, if it were my business, I'd think long and hard whether their worth to the business justifies keeping them on after this kind of stuff.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 00:45 last edited by
                              #608

                              Are they twitter employees? I didn't pick up on that.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                              G 1 Reply Last reply 18 Nov 2022, 00:48
                              • J jon-nyc
                                18 Nov 2022, 00:45

                                Are they twitter employees? I didn't pick up on that.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 00:48 last edited by
                                #609

                                @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                Are they twitter employees? I didn't pick up on that.

                                It's unclear whether they are or not.

                                However, more to my point, there have been tons of Twitter employees shit-talking about Elon.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 01:28 last edited by
                                  #610

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 01:31 last edited by
                                    #611

                                    I fail to see the problem with taking the internet's nastiest dumpster and setting it on fire to sanitize it some.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • G George K
                                      18 Nov 2022, 01:28

                                      A Away
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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 02:02 last edited by
                                      #612

                                      @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                      So much for requiring employees to work in the office at least 40 hours a week.

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                                      • A Aqua Letifer
                                        18 Nov 2022, 01:31

                                        I fail to see the problem with taking the internet's nastiest dumpster and setting it on fire to sanitize it some.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 02:04 last edited by
                                        #613

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                        I fail to see the problem with taking the internet's nastiest dumpster and setting it on fire to sanitize it some.

                                        Didn’t you say it wasn’t actually that bad a couple of months ago?

                                        I was only joking

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 03:07 last edited by
                                          #614

                                          Ouch.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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