Mitt vs Tulsi
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People are conflating 2 different issues.
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Are there Bio-Labs in Ukraine that study dangerous pathogens funded by the US? Yes. This has been testified to by the Undersecretary.
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Are there Biological Warfare labs Ukraine where weapons of mass destruction are being made? Don’t know, I doubt it.
But acknowledging and addressing #1 is not “being a Putin stooge”, “misinformation”, and certainly not treason. Gabbard’s comments that I have seen on Twitter seem to be about #1, not #2. But I could be wrong. I don’t exactly follow Gabbard everyday and I don’t twat.
@LuFins-Dad said in Mitt vs Tulsi:
People are conflating 2 different issues.
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Are there Bio-Labs in Ukraine that study dangerous pathogens funded by the US? Yes. This has been testified to by the Undersecretary.
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Are there Biological Warfare labs Ukraine where weapons of mass destruction are being made? Don’t know, I doubt it.
But acknowledging and addressing #1 is not “being a Putin stooge”, “misinformation”, and certainly not treason. Gabbard’s comments that I have seen on Twitter seem to be about #1, not #2. But I could be wrong. I don’t exactly follow Gabbard everyday and I don’t twat.
You are right. She said,
There are 25+ US-funded biolabs in Ukraine which if breached would release & spread deadly pathogens to US/world...
While I disagree with her alarmist "if breached, it would spread these (COVID-like) pathogens around the world..." statement, I'm not sure if this fits Putin's narrative, or what her goal is. Never looked her up before. Maybe Putin has dirt on her and is making her say something that fits his headline goals?
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I fail to see how what she said, which, taken on its face is accurate, rises to the level of "treason."
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I fail to see how what she said, which, taken on its face is accurate, rises to the level of "treason."
@George-K said in Mitt vs Tulsi:
I fail to see how what she said, which, taken on its face is accurate, rises to the level of "treason."
Agreed. Even if she said exactly what Putin says, the US is not involved directly with this war, so technically it wouldn't be anti-US or treason or whatever. Not even close.
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What she said was pretty much what President Biden's Undersecretary to the State Department testified to Congress. These labs do contain pathogens and do need to be secured and have the pathogens destroyed. Full stop.
Has nothing to do with giving credence to Putin or some fringe conspiracy group.
And in point of fact, the more dipshits run around yelling "She's giving credence to Russian Misinformation and it's treason" the more I start to wonder if there's more to this.
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So, the current administration is working with Russia to broker an Iran
capitulationdeal. Does that rise to the level of treason, Senator? -
So, the current administration is working with Russia to broker an Iran
capitulationdeal. Does that rise to the level of treason, Senator?@George-K said in Mitt vs Tulsi:
So, the current administration is working with Russia to broker an Iran
capitulationdeal. Does that rise to the level of treason, Senator?Is that the same Iran that fired a missile into one of our bases in Iraq?
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@George-K said in Mitt vs Tulsi:
So, the current administration is working with Russia to broker an Iran
capitulationdeal. Does that rise to the level of treason, Senator?Is that the same Iran that fired a missile into one of our bases in Iraq?
@LuFins-Dad said in Mitt vs Tulsi:
Is that the same Iran that fired a missile into one of our bases in Iraq?
*consulate...
But yeah, same Iran.
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The best propaganda takes stuff that is true, and uses it to imply stuff that is false.
And then you get a bunch of people talking about the stuff that's true, and it sounds like they're going along with the stuff that's false.
What Tucker's doing is dumb at best.
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The best propaganda takes stuff that is true, and uses it to imply stuff that is false.
And then you get a bunch of people talking about the stuff that's true, and it sounds like they're going along with the stuff that's false.
What Tucker's doing is dumb at best.
@Doctor-Phibes
Just dumb? Playing right into the Kremlin’s playbook. Carlson’s a stooge.Gabbard should just know better than to get sucked into Carlson’s agenda.
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Mr. Carlson is an American hero.
I'm sure we all applaud his courage in the face of relentless, mindless criticism.
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Mr. Carlson is an American hero.
I'm sure we all applaud his courage in the face of relentless, mindless criticism.
I was only joking
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Mr. Carlson is an American hero.
I'm sure we all applaud his courage in the face of relentless, mindless criticism.
@Copper said in Mitt vs Tulsi:
Mr. Carlson is an American hero.
I'm sure we all applaud his courage in the face of relentless, mindless criticism.
Hero for whom? I do agree though he is a mindless stooge in the finest tradition of yellow journalism.
Yellow journalism :
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Mitt vs Tulsi:
@Copper said in Mitt vs Tulsi:
Link to videoMr. Carlson is an American hero.
Funny. That was exactly the song that came to mind.
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Can't speak to Tucker Carlson as I have a sneezing fit from all the hairspray every time I see him. I'm just saying that there is nothing inappropriate with Gabbard's statements. Those facilities do need to be secured and the pathogens destroyed, especially if Putin's doing some kind of weird wink and a nod with it.
The Brad
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@George-K said in Mitt vs Tulsi:
She nails it, though the call to resign is over the top. I don't get where people in the replies are calling her a conspiracy theorist. She laid out simple and documented facts. WTF is wrong with people right now?
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"Conspiracy theorist" accusations are boilerplate lefty handbook stuff. We've all been acculturated to giggle at conspiracy theorists, long before our current left vs right divisions became so polarizing. the left has just used the opportunity to mine the giggles from that pre-conceived notion of how ridiculous conspiracy theorists are. Have to hand it to the left, they were ahead of the game recognizing the power of the tribal giggle.
