The Ukraine war thread

[Renauda]

@George-K

Probably not as well as media reports suggest. The weight of numbers on the Russian side is beginning to tell in the Donbas. Ukrainian losses are, as Zelenskyi stated yesterday, taking their toll. Ukrainian morale however remains high.

[Renauda]

The Ukrainians know their history:

https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/rail-lines-blown-up-again-in-occupied-melitopol-partisan-attack-claimed.html?fbclid=IwAR0ATcLKs3OlB5DShYeUs8RBwNASzQeXfhee5E6O3Tb9ZYDuGsjIJcOf6tc

[George K]

@Renauda one of the things that's been a hallmark of this strategy is the poor supply line logistics of the Russians. It doomed them in their attempted blitzkrieg attack on Kiev.

Looks like the Ukrainians are picking up that strategy in the east.

Hope it continues to work.

[George K]

What's the politics behind this?

[George K]

"Refused to fight"

Really?

[Mik]

I take that as a good thing.

[jon-nyc]

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

What's the politics behind this?

Why doesn’t Germany just say “how cute, you have an opinion”

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

Why doesn’t Germany just say “how cute, you have an opinion”

In the thread, there are comments saying that the contracts under which Germany acquired the weapons have restrictions as to how they can, and IF they can, sell/give to 3rd parties.

And, because I'm a Twitter n00b, I can't find it.

Wait...

[George K]

Supposedly Turkey has backed off of its opposition to Sweden's NATO membership.

[Mik]

Good. But I wonder what that cost us.

[Renauda]

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

"Refused to fight"

Really?

There may be something to that, though I would like to see more reporting and think tank commentary on it.

https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/sources-ukrainian-citizens-dragooned-into-uniform-for-rf-refusing-to-fight.html

[Mik]

Meanwhile, back at a far greater tragedy...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-fighter-jet-shot-down-by-ukraine-air-force-in-dogfight/ar-AAXO2dK?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8439b694a5804a9ba9ee6358d4ebc5a0

[George K]

I'm reading that things are not going all that well in the East, and the Russians are making gains, albeit slowly.

[George K]

No idea if it's true, but...

[Mik]

Sounds pretty credible. We will see.

[George K]

@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

Sounds pretty credible. We will see.

This guy is keeping track of Russian and Ukrainian losses - but only those with photo-documentation of said losses.

He claims a total of 736 Russian tanks lost as of tonight.

By his count

20 T90s
132 T80s

The rest are T70s or older/inferior.

[Mik]

It's amazing what you can't do with an unmotivated, uninformed, ill equipped and poorly led army.

[George K]

[jon-nyc]

[Jolly]

Over 40? No problemo...

https://news.yahoo.com/putin-signs-law-scrapping-military-090818055.html