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    Renauda
    wrote on 22 May 2022, 00:56 last edited by Renauda
    #560

    Russia smuggling its own weapons from Iraq:

    https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/04/12/Iran-s-military-helping-smuggle-weapons-from-Iraq-to-Russia-Report

    Edit: I now see that this article was from 12 April. Old hat but the first I heard of it was today.

    Elbows up!

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      George K
      wrote on 22 May 2022, 12:48 last edited by
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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Mik
        wrote on 22 May 2022, 12:51 last edited by
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        Interesting piece on the changing face of warfare.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/a-whole-age-of-warfare-sank-with-the-moskva/ar-AAXA7xC?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c5940564a8a74d2d95fbe505ca9241cc

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Renauda
          wrote on 24 May 2022, 14:02 last edited by
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          Wolverines:

          https://globalnews.ca/news/8844089/ukraine-wolverines/?fbclid=IwAR2wn7HcuZUgz6IllzhUGSOZYRo96ucy-lwXEzbVPr_8ydyOZM4tyjHatzk

          Elbows up!

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          • R Renauda
            24 May 2022, 14:02

            Wolverines:

            https://globalnews.ca/news/8844089/ukraine-wolverines/?fbclid=IwAR2wn7HcuZUgz6IllzhUGSOZYRo96ucy-lwXEzbVPr_8ydyOZM4tyjHatzk

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            George K
            wrote on 24 May 2022, 14:11 last edited by
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            @Renauda do you have a sense, from your friends, etc, who are in the thick of the conflict, of how things are going?

            Recent reports seem to indicate that Russia is making progress in the East, albeit slow. British MoD agrees with this, but they also say that as the continue to move Westward supplies will be constrained, and the move will be costly.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • G George K
              24 May 2022, 14:11

              @Renauda do you have a sense, from your friends, etc, who are in the thick of the conflict, of how things are going?

              Recent reports seem to indicate that Russia is making progress in the East, albeit slow. British MoD agrees with this, but they also say that as the continue to move Westward supplies will be constrained, and the move will be costly.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 24 May 2022, 17:52 last edited by
              #565

              @George-K

              Probably not as well as media reports suggest. The weight of numbers on the Russian side is beginning to tell in the Donbas. Ukrainian losses are, as Zelenskyi stated yesterday, taking their toll. Ukrainian morale however remains high.

              Elbows up!

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                Renauda
                wrote on 25 May 2022, 14:17 last edited by
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                The Ukrainians know their history:

                https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/rail-lines-blown-up-again-in-occupied-melitopol-partisan-attack-claimed.html?fbclid=IwAR0ATcLKs3OlB5DShYeUs8RBwNASzQeXfhee5E6O3Tb9ZYDuGsjIJcOf6tc

                Elbows up!

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                • R Renauda
                  25 May 2022, 14:17

                  The Ukrainians know their history:

                  https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/rail-lines-blown-up-again-in-occupied-melitopol-partisan-attack-claimed.html?fbclid=IwAR0ATcLKs3OlB5DShYeUs8RBwNASzQeXfhee5E6O3Tb9ZYDuGsjIJcOf6tc

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                  George K
                  wrote on 25 May 2022, 14:22 last edited by
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                  @Renauda one of the things that's been a hallmark of this strategy is the poor supply line logistics of the Russians. It doomed them in their attempted blitzkrieg attack on Kiev.

                  Looks like the Ukrainians are picking up that strategy in the east.

                  Hope it continues to work.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 25 May 2022, 21:34 last edited by
                    #568

                    What's the politics behind this?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 25 May 2022, 23:03 last edited by
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                      "Refused to fight"

                      Really?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 25 May 2022, 23:21 last edited by
                        #570

                        I take that as a good thing.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • G George K
                          25 May 2022, 21:34

                          What's the politics behind this?

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 25 May 2022, 23:31 last edited by
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                          @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          What's the politics behind this?

                          Why doesn’t Germany just say “how cute, you have an opinion”

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • J jon-nyc
                            25 May 2022, 23:31

                            @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            What's the politics behind this?

                            Why doesn’t Germany just say “how cute, you have an opinion”

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                            George K
                            wrote on 25 May 2022, 23:38 last edited by George K
                            #572

                            @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Why doesn’t Germany just say “how cute, you have an opinion”

                            In the thread, there are comments saying that the contracts under which Germany acquired the weapons have restrictions as to how they can, and IF they can, sell/give to 3rd parties.

                            And, because I'm a Twitter n00b, I can't find it.

                            Wait...

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 26 May 2022, 14:16 last edited by
                              #573

                              Supposedly Turkey has backed off of its opposition to Sweden's NATO membership.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 26 May 2022, 14:22 last edited by Mik
                                #574

                                Good. But I wonder what that cost us.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • G George K
                                  25 May 2022, 23:03

                                  "Refused to fight"

                                  Really?

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 26 May 2022, 14:25 last edited by
                                  #575

                                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  "Refused to fight"

                                  Really?

                                  There may be something to that, though I would like to see more reporting and think tank commentary on it.

                                  https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/sources-ukrainian-citizens-dragooned-into-uniform-for-rf-refusing-to-fight.html

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 27 May 2022, 23:13 last edited by
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                                    Meanwhile, back at a far greater tragedy...

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-fighter-jet-shot-down-by-ukraine-air-force-in-dogfight/ar-AAXO2dK?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8439b694a5804a9ba9ee6358d4ebc5a0

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 27 May 2022, 23:21 last edited by
                                      #577

                                      I'm reading that things are not going all that well in the East, and the Russians are making gains, albeit slowly.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 28 May 2022, 23:56 last edited by
                                        #578

                                        No idea if it's true, but...

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 29 May 2022, 00:14 last edited by
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                                          Sounds pretty credible. We will see.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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