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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #2654

    Here’s the current reality as described by the President of Finland this weekend. Finns know the Russians, know where Putin is determined to take this war and how the West must respond. They have first hand experience with the Kremlin and remember the hard lessons history has taught their nation:

    Alexander Stubb, President of Finland speaks:

    https://www.facebook.com/swedishveterans/videos/1029926085633089/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

    Elbows up!

    89th8 1 Reply Last reply
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      blondie
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      #2655

      I enjoyed watching that @Renauda . Thanks for posting this.

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #2656

        Good piece. It may be this was what Trump is after, but to precipitate it by threatening to be an unreliable partner is not diplomacy.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • 89th8 89th

          Yup totally. And Zelenskyy asked Vance his thoughts on Putin’s repeated violations of previous diplomacy and cease fires to which Vance threw a tantrum about not saying thank you. Vance should’ve said something simple about how this time it’ll be different because we have a leader that will enforce security agreements. Even Trump during the meeting said he’s the toughest person in the world but that he doesn’t want for it to come to that.

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on last edited by
          #2657

          @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Vance threw a tantrum about not saying thank you

          https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/28/politics/volodymyr-zelensky-thankful-us-fact-check/index.html

          During a remarkably combative Oval Office meeting on Friday, both President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that he was insufficiently thankful.

          “You have to be thankful. You don’t have the cards,” Trump said, adding a bit later, “You gotta be more thankful.”

          and

          Here are 33 previous examples of Zelensky thanking or expressing gratitude toward the United States, its officials or its people for their support. This is not a comprehensive list. Notably, we did not review Zelensky’s many domestic remarks in Ukrainian.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #2658

            Some people say if you watch the tape carefully, Zelensky called Vance a bitch. Not in English, of course...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #2659

              And so what if Zelenskyi did?

              Baby Face deserved something much stronger like kurva or better yet, khuiya

              Poor Baby Face, he and Trumpigula should have come to the meeting wearing clown noses.

              Elbows up!

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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                #2660

                Dbl post

                Elbows up!

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                • Tom-KT Offline
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                  Tom-K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #2661

                  Link to video

                  Ryan McBeth. Short clip--listen to his last line, the best commentary on Trump ever.

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                    #2662

                    @Tom-K

                    That was a stellar close!
                    😂

                    Elbows up!

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                    • Tom-KT Tom-K

                      Link to video

                      Ryan McBeth. Short clip--listen to his last line, the best commentary on Trump ever.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #2663

                      @Tom-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Link to video

                      Ryan McBeth. Short clip--listen to his last line, the best commentary on Trump ever.

                      I watch this guy's channel a good bit. Yes, his last comment is wicked. 😈

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        Here’s the current reality as described by the President of Finland this weekend. Finns know the Russians, know where Putin is determined to take this war and how the West must respond. They have first hand experience with the Kremlin and remember the hard lessons history has taught their nation:

                        Alexander Stubb, President of Finland speaks:

                        https://www.facebook.com/swedishveterans/videos/1029926085633089/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

                        89th8 Offline
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                        89th
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2664

                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Here’s the current reality as described by the President of Finland this weekend. Finns know the Russians, know where Putin is determined to take this war and how the West must respond. They have first hand experience with the Kremlin and remember the hard lessons history has taught their nation:

                        Alexander Stubb, President of Finland speaks:

                        https://www.facebook.com/swedishveterans/videos/1029926085633089/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

                        It's refreshing to hear such clarity and organized thought from a leader. Biden was a corpse and Trump is a headline-chaser.

                        RenaudaR AxtremusA 2 Replies Last reply
                        • 89th8 89th

                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          Here’s the current reality as described by the President of Finland this weekend. Finns know the Russians, know where Putin is determined to take this war and how the West must respond. They have first hand experience with the Kremlin and remember the hard lessons history has taught their nation:

                          Alexander Stubb, President of Finland speaks:

                          https://www.facebook.com/swedishveterans/videos/1029926085633089/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

                          It's refreshing to hear such clarity and organized thought from a leader. Biden was a corpse and Trump is a headline-chaser.

                          RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                          #2665

                          @89th

                          Indeed it is not only refreshing but reassuring to know that there
                          is still one adult left in the room in the midst of chaos.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Here’s the current reality as described by the President of Finland this weekend. Finns know the Russians, know where Putin is determined to take this war and how the West must respond. They have first hand experience with the Kremlin and remember the hard lessons history has taught their nation:

                            Alexander Stubb, President of Finland speaks:

                            https://www.facebook.com/swedishveterans/videos/1029926085633089/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

                            It's refreshing to hear such clarity and organized thought from a leader. Biden was a corpse and Trump is a headline-chaser.

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2666

                            @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            It's refreshing to hear such clarity and organized thought from a leader.

                            Hillary could do it.
                            Romney could do it.
                            Mayor Pete could do it.

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              It's refreshing to hear such clarity and organized thought from a leader.

                              Hillary could do it.
                              Romney could do it.
                              Mayor Pete could do it.

                              RenaudaR Offline
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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by Renauda
                              #2667

                              @Axtremus

                              Yes Romney could do it, as I’m sure Nikki Halley could as well.

                              Hilary Clinton though, I have my serious doubts. Her term as Sect’y of State is part of the reason the world is where it’s at right now.

                              Don’t know enough about the Mayor Pete chap to say ether way..

                              Elbows up!

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                It's refreshing to hear such clarity and organized thought from a leader.

                                Hillary could do it.
                                Romney could do it.
                                Mayor Pete could do it.

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #2668

                                @Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                It's refreshing to hear such clarity and organized thought from a leader.

                                Hillary could do it.
                                Romney could do it.
                                Mayor Pete could do it.

                                1. Lose?
                                2. Lose?
                                3. Lose?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Some people say if you watch the tape carefully, Zelensky called Vance a bitch. Not in English, of course...

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2669

                                  @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Some people say if you watch the tape carefully, Zelensky called Vance a bitch. Not in English, of course...

                                  You were warned.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                    #2670

                                    Having said that, there’s no reasonable definition of ‘bitch’ that Vance wouldn’t clear.

                                    You were warned.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Having said that, there’s no reasonable definition of ‘bitch’ that Vance wouldn’t clear.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #2671

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      Having said that, there’s no reasonable definition of ‘bitch’ that Vance wouldn’t clear.

                                      Well, strictly speaking he's not actually canine.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Some people say if you watch the tape carefully, Zelensky called Vance a bitch. Not in English, of course...

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #2672

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Some people say if you watch the tape carefully, Zelensky called Vance a bitch. Not in English, of course...

                                        The swear expression сука блять (syka blyat’) is Russian not Ukrainian, and is commonly used in the contemporary lexicon of both languages. Ukrainians whose families originated in Western Ukraine (under Austria and Poland) then immigrated to North America before WWII, would not use it, as their swearing would be closer to the Polish kurwa mać example in the tweet.

                                        In any case, the term suka blyat’ is a vulgar expression of frustration or exasperation at something or at what someone either did or said. Although it cannot be translated directly into English, it is the Russian equivalent of saying Aw, for fuck sakes! or,as noted in the Tweet, fucking hell!. In any case, it is not a vulgar epithet directed at an individual person like calling them a “bitter asshole* or a “goddamned prick”.

                                        So it is bullshit to accuse Zelensky of calling Baby Face Vance a “fucking bitch” as some ignoramuses might maintain.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2673

                                          In any event the Trump administration has no room to complain about name calling.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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