The Ukraine war thread

Jolly

Rubio speaks...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/03/02/secretary_rubio_well_be_ready_to_re-engage_when_zelensky_is_ready_for_peace.html

Renauda

Here’s the current reality as described by the President of Finland this weekend. Finns know the Russians, know where Putin is determined to take this war and how the West must respond. They have first hand experience with the Kremlin and remember the hard lessons history has taught their nation:

Alexander Stubb, President of Finland speaks:

https://www.facebook.com/swedishveterans/videos/1029926085633089/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

blondie

I enjoyed watching that @Renauda . Thanks for posting this.

Mik

Good piece. It may be this was what Trump is after, but to precipitate it by threatening to be an unreliable partner is not diplomacy.

taiwan_girl

@89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

Vance threw a tantrum about not saying thank you

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/28/politics/volodymyr-zelensky-thankful-us-fact-check/index.html

During a remarkably combative Oval Office meeting on Friday, both President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that he was insufficiently thankful.

“You have to be thankful. You don’t have the cards,” Trump said, adding a bit later, “You gotta be more thankful.”

and

Here are 33 previous examples of Zelensky thanking or expressing gratitude toward the United States, its officials or its people for their support. This is not a comprehensive list. Notably, we did not review Zelensky’s many domestic remarks in Ukrainian.

Jolly

Some people say if you watch the tape carefully, Zelensky called Vance a bitch. Not in English, of course...

Renauda

And so what if Zelenskyi did?

Baby Face deserved something much stronger like kurva or better yet, khuiya

Poor Baby Face, he and Trumpigula should have come to the meeting wearing clown noses.

Renauda

Dbl post

Tom-K

Link to video

Ryan McBeth. Short clip--listen to his last line, the best commentary on Trump ever.

Renauda

@Tom-K

That was a stellar close!
😂

Jolly

@Tom-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

Link to video

Ryan McBeth. Short clip--listen to his last line, the best commentary on Trump ever.

I watch this guy's channel a good bit. Yes, his last comment is wicked. 😈

89th

@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

Here’s the current reality as described by the President of Finland this weekend. Finns know the Russians, know where Putin is determined to take this war and how the West must respond. They have first hand experience with the Kremlin and remember the hard lessons history has taught their nation:

Alexander Stubb, President of Finland speaks:

https://www.facebook.com/swedishveterans/videos/1029926085633089/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

It's refreshing to hear such clarity and organized thought from a leader. Biden was a corpse and Trump is a headline-chaser.

Renauda

@89th

Indeed it is not only refreshing but reassuring to know that there
is still one adult left in the room in the midst of chaos.

Axtremus

@89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

It's refreshing to hear such clarity and organized thought from a leader.

Hillary could do it.
Romney could do it.
Mayor Pete could do it.

Renauda

@Axtremus

Yes Romney could do it, as I’m sure Nikki Halley could as well.

Hilary Clinton though, I have my serious doubts. Her term as Sect’y of State is part of the reason the world is where it’s at right now.

Don’t know enough about the Mayor Pete chap to say ether way..

Jolly

@Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:

@89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

It's refreshing to hear such clarity and organized thought from a leader.

Hillary could do it.
Romney could do it.
Mayor Pete could do it.

Lose?
Lose?
Lose?

jon-nyc

@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

Some people say if you watch the tape carefully, Zelensky called Vance a bitch. Not in English, of course...

jon-nyc

Having said that, there’s no reasonable definition of ‘bitch’ that Vance wouldn’t clear.

Doctor Phibes

@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

Having said that, there’s no reasonable definition of ‘bitch’ that Vance wouldn’t clear.

Well, strictly speaking he's not actually canine.

Renauda

@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

Some people say if you watch the tape carefully, Zelensky called Vance a bitch. Not in English, of course...

The swear expression сука блять (syka blyat’) is Russian not Ukrainian, and is commonly used in the contemporary lexicon of both languages. Ukrainians whose families originated in Western Ukraine (under Austria and Poland) then immigrated to North America before WWII, would not use it, as their swearing would be closer to the Polish kurwa mać example in the tweet.

In any case, the term suka blyat’ is a vulgar expression of frustration or exasperation at something or at what someone either did or said. Although it cannot be translated directly into English, it is the Russian equivalent of saying Aw, for fuck sakes! or,as noted in the Tweet, fucking hell!. In any case, it is not a vulgar epithet directed at an individual person like calling them a “bitter asshole* or a “goddamned prick”.

So it is bullshit to accuse Zelensky of calling Baby Face Vance a “fucking bitch” as some ignoramuses might maintain.

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