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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by Mik
    #2287

    Oh oh. I have no idea if the Kyiv Independent is a credible soutce or not.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kyiv-considering-ceding-territory-to-end-war-with-russia-der-spiegel-reports/ar-AA1scBww?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=bb5a9956c7784914a871f34d18254332&ei=57

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • W Do not disturb
      W Do not disturb
      Wim
      wrote on last edited by Wim
      #2288

      I don't know about Kyiv Indepents' reliability.
      However, it is obvious that Ukraine is considering all options, knowing the US are a lame duck for now. And Hungary's Orban, is into foul play by litterally sabotaging European fund schemes.

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      • W Do not disturb
        W Do not disturb
        Wim
        wrote on last edited by
        #2289

        Russian ruble imploding?

        https://www.kyivpost.com/post/40513

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        • RenaudaR Offline
          RenaudaR Offline
          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by
          #2290

          Possibly so:

          https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/a-somber-outlook-for-the-russian-economy/

          Elbows up!

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          • RenaudaR Offline
            RenaudaR Offline
            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #2291

            North Korea allegedly sends troops to assist Russian Special Military Operation:

            https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3vkqwe9wwdo

            After all what else are fraternal friends for?

            Imagine the howl from the Kremlin if Warsaw sent forces to assist Kyiv in defending itself.

            Elbows up!

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            • MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #2292

              I heard that the first 1500 are special forces trained.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • W Do not disturb
                W Do not disturb
                Wim
                wrote on last edited by
                #2293

                Apparently 18 have already deserted... (you'll need Google translate, sorry for that)

                https://suspilne.media/858583-vijskovi-kndr-vze-tikaut-z-pozicij-na-kordoni-iz-branskou-ta-kurskou-oblastami-dzerela/

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                • W Wim

                  Apparently 18 have already deserted... (you'll need Google translate, sorry for that)

                  https://suspilne.media/858583-vijskovi-kndr-vze-tikaut-z-pozicij-na-kordoni-iz-branskou-ta-kurskou-oblastami-dzerela/

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by George K
                  #2294

                  @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  18 have already deserted.

                  North Korean soldiers deserted when moved out of the country.

                  Surprise...

                  (translate not working for me)

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    18 have already deserted.

                    North Korean soldiers deserted when moved out of the country.

                    Surprise...

                    (translate not working for me)

                    MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #2295

                    @George-K I had not thought of that, but yeah. No surprise.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #2296

                      I just dont think that would work at all. Language problems come to mind right away. The level of Russian speakers in DPRK is pretty small. The foreign language emphasis in the near past has been Chinese.

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        I just dont think that would work at all. Language problems come to mind right away. The level of Russian speakers in DPRK is pretty small. The foreign language emphasis in the near past has been Chinese.

                        RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #2297

                        @taiwan_girl

                        You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          @taiwan_girl

                          You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

                          taiwan_girlT Offline
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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2298

                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          @taiwan_girl

                          You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

                          Interesting. Do you think that they would be in a position to support the command of a group of DPRK soldiers?

                          I suppose these soldiers could not be any worse than the convicts that Russia been using.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2299

                            The convicts are dead. Now it’s the aged.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              @taiwan_girl

                              You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

                              Interesting. Do you think that they would be in a position to support the command of a group of DPRK soldiers?

                              I suppose these soldiers could not be any worse than the convicts that Russia been using.

                              RenaudaR Offline
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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #2300

                              @taiwan_girl

                              Do you think that they would be in a position to support the command of a group of DPRK soldiers?

                              Yes I do.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #2301

                                Are we targeting the wrong thing with sanctions?

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-west-is-trying-to-starve-the-wrong-part-of-russia-s-war-machine-defense-experts-say/ar-AA1sAkG9

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Are we targeting the wrong thing with sanctions?

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-west-is-trying-to-starve-the-wrong-part-of-russia-s-war-machine-defense-experts-say/ar-AA1sAkG9

                                  taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2302

                                  @Mik

                                  Current Western sanctions tend to be too broad and sporadic to cripple Russian defense production. A better approach would be a mixture of economic sanctions and diplomatic pressure focused on Russia's artillery supply chain, concluded the report. "A concerted approach, with additional resources dedicated to enforcement and disruption, will have a greater chance of success."

                                  I wonder how effective that would be? Seems like it would just like we are doing now. I dont know if more diplomatic pressure on countries like China would make a difference.

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #2303

                                    Bomb the vodka!

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-alcohol-empire-suffers-devastating-quadruple-blow/ar-AA1sIq8h

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #2304

                                      If this isn’t a war crime I don’t know what would be.

                                      You were warned.

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #2305

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-generals-are-turning-on-each-other/ar-AA1tfCNb

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • W Do not disturb
                                          W Do not disturb
                                          Wim
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2306

                                          Chinese mock Russian fighter jet
                                          https://www.kyivpost.com/post/41667

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