The Ukraine war thread

[Mik]

Oh oh. I have no idea if the Kyiv Independent is a credible soutce or not.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kyiv-considering-ceding-territory-to-end-war-with-russia-der-spiegel-reports/ar-AA1scBww?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=bb5a9956c7784914a871f34d18254332&ei=57

[Wim]

I don't know about Kyiv Indepents' reliability.
However, it is obvious that Ukraine is considering all options, knowing the US are a lame duck for now. And Hungary's Orban, is into foul play by litterally sabotaging European fund schemes.

[Wim]

Russian ruble imploding?

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/40513

[Renauda]

Possibly so:

https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/a-somber-outlook-for-the-russian-economy/

[Renauda]

North Korea allegedly sends troops to assist Russian Special Military Operation:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3vkqwe9wwdo

After all what else are fraternal friends for?

Imagine the howl from the Kremlin if Warsaw sent forces to assist Kyiv in defending itself.

[Mik]

I heard that the first 1500 are special forces trained.

[Wim]

Apparently 18 have already deserted... (you'll need Google translate, sorry for that)

https://suspilne.media/858583-vijskovi-kndr-vze-tikaut-z-pozicij-na-kordoni-iz-branskou-ta-kurskou-oblastami-dzerela/

[George K]

@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

18 have already deserted.

North Korean soldiers deserted when moved out of the country.

Surprise...

(translate not working for me)

[Mik]

@George-K I had not thought of that, but yeah. No surprise.

[taiwan_girl]

I just dont think that would work at all. Language problems come to mind right away. The level of Russian speakers in DPRK is pretty small. The foreign language emphasis in the near past has been Chinese.

[Renauda]

@taiwan_girl

You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

[taiwan_girl]

@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

@taiwan_girl

You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

Interesting. Do you think that they would be in a position to support the command of a group of DPRK soldiers?

I suppose these soldiers could not be any worse than the convicts that Russia been using.

[Mik]

The convicts are dead. Now it’s the aged.

[Renauda]

@taiwan_girl

Do you think that they would be in a position to support the command of a group of DPRK soldiers?

Yes I do.

[Mik]

Are we targeting the wrong thing with sanctions?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-west-is-trying-to-starve-the-wrong-part-of-russia-s-war-machine-defense-experts-say/ar-AA1sAkG9

[taiwan_girl]

@Mik

Current Western sanctions tend to be too broad and sporadic to cripple Russian defense production. A better approach would be a mixture of economic sanctions and diplomatic pressure focused on Russia's artillery supply chain, concluded the report. "A concerted approach, with additional resources dedicated to enforcement and disruption, will have a greater chance of success."

I wonder how effective that would be? Seems like it would just like we are doing now. I dont know if more diplomatic pressure on countries like China would make a difference.

[Mik]

Bomb the vodka!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-alcohol-empire-suffers-devastating-quadruple-blow/ar-AA1sIq8h

[jon-nyc]

If this isn’t a war crime I don’t know what would be.

[Mik]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-generals-are-turning-on-each-other/ar-AA1tfCNb

[Wim]

Chinese mock Russian fighter jet
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/41667