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  • MikM Mik

    Russians are ready to end it. I suspect that if 31% will answer in the affirmative the number that really feels that way is greater.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-show-growing-support-for-ending-war-on-ukraine-s-terms/ar-AA1s3faW?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=40b93f88430b474b92473bac7ddddc7c&ei=21

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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #2284

    @Mik

    If the Kremlin were to acquiesce to or propose such, it would turn out to be a Trojan Horse.

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Away
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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #2285

      Could be.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by
        #2286

        Russian stealth drone Okhotnik (The Hunter) gone astray:

        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9qv3lnqy0vo

        Elbows up!

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        • MikM Away
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by Mik
          #2287

          Oh oh. I have no idea if the Kyiv Independent is a credible soutce or not.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kyiv-considering-ceding-territory-to-end-war-with-russia-der-spiegel-reports/ar-AA1scBww?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=bb5a9956c7784914a871f34d18254332&ei=57

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Wim
            wrote on last edited by Wim
            #2288

            I don't know about Kyiv Indepents' reliability.
            However, it is obvious that Ukraine is considering all options, knowing the US are a lame duck for now. And Hungary's Orban, is into foul play by litterally sabotaging European fund schemes.

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              Wim
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              #2289

              Russian ruble imploding?

              https://www.kyivpost.com/post/40513

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                Renauda
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                #2290

                Possibly so:

                https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/a-somber-outlook-for-the-russian-economy/

                Elbows up!

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #2291

                  North Korea allegedly sends troops to assist Russian Special Military Operation:

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3vkqwe9wwdo

                  After all what else are fraternal friends for?

                  Imagine the howl from the Kremlin if Warsaw sent forces to assist Kyiv in defending itself.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #2292

                    I heard that the first 1500 are special forces trained.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Wim
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                      #2293

                      Apparently 18 have already deserted... (you'll need Google translate, sorry for that)

                      https://suspilne.media/858583-vijskovi-kndr-vze-tikaut-z-pozicij-na-kordoni-iz-branskou-ta-kurskou-oblastami-dzerela/

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                      • W Wim

                        Apparently 18 have already deserted... (you'll need Google translate, sorry for that)

                        https://suspilne.media/858583-vijskovi-kndr-vze-tikaut-z-pozicij-na-kordoni-iz-branskou-ta-kurskou-oblastami-dzerela/

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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by George K
                        #2294

                        @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        18 have already deserted.

                        North Korean soldiers deserted when moved out of the country.

                        Surprise...

                        (translate not working for me)

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          18 have already deserted.

                          North Korean soldiers deserted when moved out of the country.

                          Surprise...

                          (translate not working for me)

                          MikM Away
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #2295

                          @George-K I had not thought of that, but yeah. No surprise.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            taiwan_girl
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                            #2296

                            I just dont think that would work at all. Language problems come to mind right away. The level of Russian speakers in DPRK is pretty small. The foreign language emphasis in the near past has been Chinese.

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              I just dont think that would work at all. Language problems come to mind right away. The level of Russian speakers in DPRK is pretty small. The foreign language emphasis in the near past has been Chinese.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by Renauda
                              #2297

                              @taiwan_girl

                              You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                @taiwan_girl

                                You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

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                                taiwan_girl
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                                @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                @taiwan_girl

                                You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

                                Interesting. Do you think that they would be in a position to support the command of a group of DPRK soldiers?

                                I suppose these soldiers could not be any worse than the convicts that Russia been using.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2299

                                  The convicts are dead. Now it’s the aged.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    @taiwan_girl

                                    You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

                                    Interesting. Do you think that they would be in a position to support the command of a group of DPRK soldiers?

                                    I suppose these soldiers could not be any worse than the convicts that Russia been using.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #2300

                                    @taiwan_girl

                                    Do you think that they would be in a position to support the command of a group of DPRK soldiers?

                                    Yes I do.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • MikM Away
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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #2301

                                      Are we targeting the wrong thing with sanctions?

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-west-is-trying-to-starve-the-wrong-part-of-russia-s-war-machine-defense-experts-say/ar-AA1sAkG9

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Are we targeting the wrong thing with sanctions?

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-west-is-trying-to-starve-the-wrong-part-of-russia-s-war-machine-defense-experts-say/ar-AA1sAkG9

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #2302

                                        @Mik

                                        Current Western sanctions tend to be too broad and sporadic to cripple Russian defense production. A better approach would be a mixture of economic sanctions and diplomatic pressure focused on Russia's artillery supply chain, concluded the report. "A concerted approach, with additional resources dedicated to enforcement and disruption, will have a greater chance of success."

                                        I wonder how effective that would be? Seems like it would just like we are doing now. I dont know if more diplomatic pressure on countries like China would make a difference.

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                                        • MikM Away
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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2303

                                          Bomb the vodka!

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-alcohol-empire-suffers-devastating-quadruple-blow/ar-AA1sIq8h

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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