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    George K
    wrote on 4 Aug 2024, 12:01 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Renauda
      wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 21:50 last edited by Renauda 8 Jun 2024, 21:52
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      Putin celebrates Navy Day:

      https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russias-black-sea-defeats-get-flushed-down-vladimir-putins-memory-hole/?mkt_tok=NjU5LVdaWC0wNzUAAAGUyIqq7O7lsJL8cCr_UJo6iPo6opzpC7bmlQX41dCVjCGgKAX9QcySXNb3IdivjEK119DnTsWjx1fhlWxrLk3IvL75Cz5vU_ghssZHAqGUeAp-

      Photos:

      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/07/29/in-photos-russia-stages-showcase-naval-parade-a85861

      Elbows up!

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        George K
        wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 12:28 last edited by
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Wim
          wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 13:35 last edited by
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          Interesting discussion. We'll see who got it right. https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/08/07/forbes-analyst-and-israeli-expert-clash-over-ukrainian-incursion-into-russias-kursk-oblast/

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            Jolly
            wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 13:49 last edited by
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            It's war and understandable. The problem comes in what do your neighboring countries - those that may be affected by a widening conflict - think about it? After all, Ukraine is getting a lot of weapons from countries in Europe.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              7 Aug 2024, 13:49

              It's war and understandable. The problem comes in what do your neighboring countries - those that may be affected by a widening conflict - think about it? After all, Ukraine is getting a lot of weapons from countries in Europe.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 7 Aug 2024, 18:24 last edited by Renauda 8 Aug 2024, 15:07
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              @Jolly

              I am sure the Orban in Hungary and Slovakia’s Pellegrini and Fico are not pleased with it. But what else can you expect from co-opted Kremlin friendly populist nationalists?

              Neither supply much of anything in terms of military assistance to Kyiv. The good neighbours that do supply such as Poland, Romania, Lithuania and the remainder of European NATO membership, have no qualms about these incursions into Russia.

              Elbows up!

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                Renauda
                wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 17:22 last edited by
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                Day three. Ukrainian forces appear to have control of Suzhda natural gas hub:

                https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0ngzg9754o

                Elbows up!

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 17:25 last edited by
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                  There's some revulsion at an invading nation that targets civilians then cries no fair when you hit back.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 17:29 last edited by Renauda 8 Aug 2024, 17:48
                    #2238

                    Russia revels in playing the sole and eternal victim.

                    Elbows up!

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 17:51 last edited by
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                      Pretty wimpy for Viking remnants.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 18:03 last edited by Renauda 8 Aug 2024, 19:48
                        #2240

                        The inferiority complex is what feeds the Orthodoxy, Autocracy and Nationality of the Russian mentality.

                        Elbows up!

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                          George K
                          wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 18:31 last edited by George K 8 Aug 2024, 18:31
                          #2241

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 19:58 last edited by
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                            Fuck ‘em.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 21:34 last edited by
                              #2243

                              Well, maybe just the women...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                8 Aug 2024, 18:31

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 21:44 last edited by Renauda 8 Aug 2024, 22:35
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                                @George-K

                                They come across as incredulous as to what happened or is happening. That or the plea to Putin has been staged for domestic consumption; it will play well throughout Russia but especially so in rural areas. As if they had no idea as to why “foreign” troops (note at no time do they say Ukrainian troops) invaded their territory.

                                I suspect it was staged. A propaganda tool right out of the old Soviet playbook. The People’s earnest appeal to the Leader.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  8 Aug 2024, 21:44

                                  @George-K

                                  They come across as incredulous as to what happened or is happening. That or the plea to Putin has been staged for domestic consumption; it will play well throughout Russia but especially so in rural areas. As if they had no idea as to why “foreign” troops (note at no time do they say Ukrainian troops) invaded their territory.

                                  I suspect it was staged. A propaganda tool right out of the old Soviet playbook. The People’s earnest appeal to the Leader.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 22:54 last edited by
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                                  @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  A propaganda tool right out of the old Soviet playbook. The People’s earnest appeal to the Leader.

                                  More likely than not.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 23:10 last edited by
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                                    The answer to the why question is obvious in their appeal.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 23:14 last edited by Renauda 8 Aug 2024, 23:14
                                      #2247

                                      Wonder if Orban and Fico will send military aid to assuage their concerns.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 9 Aug 2024, 12:30 last edited by
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                                        Second Russian helicopter brought down by a drone.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 9 Aug 2024, 13:18 last edited by
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                                          Don't take your eye off of the ball, though. Russia is still advancing. I'm guessing Ukraine's Kursk operation is meant to cut off some Russian supply lines and pull Russian troops back to defend those supply lines.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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