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    George K
    wrote on 1 Feb 2024, 15:07 last edited by
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    Interesting list - the Russian Navy

    1 aircraft carrier
    2 battlecruisers
    2 cruisers
    10 destroyers
    11 frigates
    80 corvettes
    11 landing ship tanks
    60 landing craft
    18 special-purpose ships
    4 patrol ships
    56 patrol boats
    45 mine countermeasures vessels
    8 special-purpose submarines
    65 active ballistic missile/cruise missile and attack submarines

    The "IVanovets"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantul-class_corvette

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • J Jolly
      1 Feb 2024, 13:36

      Russia has a huge Black Sea problem. Even if they could, Turkey won't let their navy through the straits to reenforce what they have.

      So what they have, is what they have. And what they have, is dwindling...

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      George K
      wrote on 1 Feb 2024, 15:51 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Russia has a huge Black Sea problem.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
        wrote on 2 Feb 2024, 14:21 last edited by
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          George K
          wrote on 3 Feb 2024, 14:05 last edited by
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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Wim
            wrote on 4 Feb 2024, 18:53 last edited by
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            A long read (on drones and Zelenski vs his top general), but worth it. https://stefankorshak.substack.com/p/feb-3-day-710-droning-on-about-drones?utm_medium=reader2

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            • W Wim
              4 Feb 2024, 18:53

              A long read (on drones and Zelenski vs his top general), but worth it. https://stefankorshak.substack.com/p/feb-3-day-710-droning-on-about-drones?utm_medium=reader2

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              George K
              wrote on 4 Feb 2024, 20:17 last edited by
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              @Wim very interesting stuff about the importance and effectiveness of drone warfare.

              He claims that it makes artillery partially obsolete. I’m not sure how true that is, but it’s certainly an interesting claim.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 4 Feb 2024, 22:16 last edited by
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                It’s certainly more precise.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  George K
                  wrote on 5 Feb 2024, 12:38 last edited by
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                  Speaking of Drones...

                  Wow.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • G George K
                    5 Feb 2024, 12:38

                    Speaking of Drones...

                    Wow.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 5 Feb 2024, 14:53 last edited by
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                    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Wow.

                    Yes, wow!!

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 7 Feb 2024, 15:41 last edited by Renauda 2 Jul 2024, 15:45
                      #2049

                      Battle or meat grinder for Adiivka continues. Russian losses estimated at 13:1.
                      Suspect George’s video above documents what is happening on the ground there:

                      https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/30/russian-troops-crawled-through-a-sewer-to-attack-avdiivka-ukrainian-drones-were-waiting-for-them/?sh=6758094f5cca

                      Elbows up!

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 7 Feb 2024, 16:02 last edited by
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                        WWII strategy, or lack of any strategy at all.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Wim
                          wrote on 7 Feb 2024, 16:41 last edited by
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                          Meanwhile this happened:
                          https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/07/major-chinese-bank-halts-all-settlements-with-russia-vedomosti-a84001

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                            Wim
                            wrote on 7 Feb 2024, 16:47 last edited by Wim 2 Jul 2024, 16:47
                            #2052

                            And this is happening as well:
                            https://www.kyivpost.com/post/27740

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                            • W Wim
                              7 Feb 2024, 16:41

                              Meanwhile this happened:
                              https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/07/major-chinese-bank-halts-all-settlements-with-russia-vedomosti-a84001

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 7 Feb 2024, 16:47 last edited by
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                              @Wim That is interesting. China is pretty much the only major trading partner for Russia now. If they lose China...........

                              It is surprising that Chian would do this. With all of the domestic problems (including exports) they are having, I wonder the reasoning.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 14 Feb 2024, 10:28 last edited by George K
                                #2054

                                Submarine fleet got bigger

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Wim
                                  wrote on 14 Feb 2024, 11:36 last edited by
                                  #2055

                                  Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                  https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 14 Feb 2024, 11:39 last edited by
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • W Wim
                                      14 Feb 2024, 11:36

                                      Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                      https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 14 Feb 2024, 11:40 last edited by
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                                      @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                      https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

                                      I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 14 Feb 2024, 12:05 last edited by
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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • G George K
                                          14 Feb 2024, 11:40

                                          @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                          https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

                                          I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

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                                          Wim
                                          wrote on 14 Feb 2024, 13:03 last edited by
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                                          @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

                                          Beware of "Track II". The Kurds have experienced something alike.

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