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  • W Wim

    A long read (on drones and Zelenski vs his top general), but worth it. https://stefankorshak.substack.com/p/feb-3-day-710-droning-on-about-drones?utm_medium=reader2

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    George K
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    #2045

    @Wim very interesting stuff about the importance and effectiveness of drone warfare.

    He claims that it makes artillery partially obsolete. I’m not sure how true that is, but it’s certainly an interesting claim.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Away
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      Mik
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      #2046

      It’s certainly more precise.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        George K
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        #2047

        Speaking of Drones...

        Wow.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          Speaking of Drones...

          Wow.

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          taiwan_girl
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          #2048

          @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Wow.

          Yes, wow!!

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #2049

            Battle or meat grinder for Adiivka continues. Russian losses estimated at 13:1.
            Suspect George’s video above documents what is happening on the ground there:

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/30/russian-troops-crawled-through-a-sewer-to-attack-avdiivka-ukrainian-drones-were-waiting-for-them/?sh=6758094f5cca

            Elbows up!

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              #2050

              WWII strategy, or lack of any strategy at all.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Wim
                wrote on last edited by
                #2051

                Meanwhile this happened:
                https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/07/major-chinese-bank-halts-all-settlements-with-russia-vedomosti-a84001

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                  Wim
                  wrote on last edited by Wim
                  #2052

                  And this is happening as well:
                  https://www.kyivpost.com/post/27740

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                  • W Wim

                    Meanwhile this happened:
                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/07/major-chinese-bank-halts-all-settlements-with-russia-vedomosti-a84001

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                    taiwan_girl
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                    #2053

                    @Wim That is interesting. China is pretty much the only major trading partner for Russia now. If they lose China...........

                    It is surprising that Chian would do this. With all of the domestic problems (including exports) they are having, I wonder the reasoning.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #2054

                      Submarine fleet got bigger

                      1392e74f-1e25-4bf3-9135-62240989f46e-image.jpeg

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Wim
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2055

                        Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                        https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

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                          George K
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                          GGSMAaCXEAA0B_z.jpeg

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • W Wim

                            Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                            https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

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                            #2057

                            @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                            https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

                            I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              GGSxt5SW8AACKgA.jpeg

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

                                I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

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                                Wim
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

                                Beware of "Track II". The Kurds have experienced something alike.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                  https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

                                  I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                  #2060

                                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                  https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

                                  I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

                                  This issue was debated here three months ago in December. The US must be at the table along side Ukraine as honest broker, arbitrator and guarantor. It’s all about winning the peace.

                                  https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/28373/the-zoomies-are-not-all-right/19?_=1707917152632

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by Mik
                                    #2061

                                    His hope is to incent Biden to bite in an election year with a difficult Congress, yet still retain occupied territory. It’s to Biden’s credit that he refused.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                      #2062

                                      The Kremlin has wasted no time in denying it made such an offer to the US:

                                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/14/kremlin-denies-report-that-putin-offered-ukraine-truce-to-us-a84076

                                      That probably means that the report is true. Besides, Putin as much as said in his sermon/lecture to FuCa last week that he is prepared to negotiate Ukraine’s continued existence with any sitting US president. Makes sense, since Putin rejects the notion that Ukraine is a sovereign country or even exists.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        As John Bolton stated in a recent interview “Putin thought Trump was a fool who could be easily manipulable if he could get him the right situations”. Putin certainly recognized that Trump admired the other strong man leaders like Erdogan, Xi and Kim. Moreover, he saw Trump as a force set out to weaken if not altogether dissolve NATO.

                                        Trump sold out the Kurds to Erdogan so why, in his little narcissistic brain, should the Ukrainians be not be sold out to Putin?

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                                        #2063

                                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        As John Bolton stated in a recent interview “Putin thought Trump was a fool who could be easily manipulable if he could get him the right situations”. Putin certainly recognized that Trump admired the other strong man leaders like Erdogan, Xi and Kim. Moreover, he saw Trump as a force set out to weaken if not altogether dissolve NATO.

                                        Trump sold out the Kurds to Erdogan so why, in his little narcissistic brain, should the Ukrainians be not be sold out to Putin?

                                        3D Chess by President Putin???????

                                        https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-biden-trump-fb2fece0be7685624a3e3e379a8a3bd3

                                        Speaking in an interview with a correspondent of Russian state television, Putin declared that he will work with any U.S. leader who is elected, but noted unequivocally that he would prefer Biden’s victory when asked who would be a better choice from the point of view of Russia.

                                        “Biden, he’s more experienced, more predictable, he’s a politician of the old formation,” Putin said. “But we will work with any U.S. leader whom the American people trust.”

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          As John Bolton stated in a recent interview “Putin thought Trump was a fool who could be easily manipulable if he could get him the right situations”. Putin certainly recognized that Trump admired the other strong man leaders like Erdogan, Xi and Kim. Moreover, he saw Trump as a force set out to weaken if not altogether dissolve NATO.

                                          Trump sold out the Kurds to Erdogan so why, in his little narcissistic brain, should the Ukrainians be not be sold out to Putin?

                                          3D Chess by President Putin???????

                                          https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-biden-trump-fb2fece0be7685624a3e3e379a8a3bd3

                                          Speaking in an interview with a correspondent of Russian state television, Putin declared that he will work with any U.S. leader who is elected, but noted unequivocally that he would prefer Biden’s victory when asked who would be a better choice from the point of view of Russia.

                                          “Biden, he’s more experienced, more predictable, he’s a politician of the old formation,” Putin said. “But we will work with any U.S. leader whom the American people trust.”

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          George K
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                                          #2064

                                          @taiwan_girl said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-biden-trump-fb2fece0be7685624a3e3e379a8a3bd3

                                          Speaking in an interview with a correspondent of Russian state television, Putin declared that he will work with any U.S. leader who is elected, but noted unequivocally that he would prefer Biden’s victory when asked who would be a better choice from the point of view of Russia.

                                          GOP campaign ad - right there.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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