The Ukraine war thread

[George K]

The Russian submarine fleet in the Black Sea just got bigger.

[Jolly]

Russia has a huge Black Sea problem. Even if they could, Turkey won't let their navy through the straits to reenforce what they have.

So what they have, is what they have. And what they have, is dwindling...

[George K]

@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

Turkey won't let their navy through the straits to reenforce what they have.

I'd forgotten about that. Yeah, that's a yuge issue.

[George K]

Interesting list - the Russian Navy

1 aircraft carrier
2 battlecruisers
2 cruisers
10 destroyers
11 frigates
80 corvettes
11 landing ship tanks
60 landing craft
18 special-purpose ships
4 patrol ships
56 patrol boats
45 mine countermeasures vessels
8 special-purpose submarines
65 active ballistic missile/cruise missile and attack submarines

The "IVanovets"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantul-class_corvette

[George K]

@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

Russia has a huge Black Sea problem.

[George K]

[George K]

[Wim]

A long read (on drones and Zelenski vs his top general), but worth it. https://stefankorshak.substack.com/p/feb-3-day-710-droning-on-about-drones?utm_medium=reader2

[George K]

@Wim very interesting stuff about the importance and effectiveness of drone warfare.

He claims that it makes artillery partially obsolete. I’m not sure how true that is, but it’s certainly an interesting claim.

[Mik]

It’s certainly more precise.

[George K]

Speaking of Drones...

Wow.

[taiwan_girl]

[Renauda]

Battle or meat grinder for Adiivka continues. Russian losses estimated at 13:1.
Suspect George’s video above documents what is happening on the ground there:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/30/russian-troops-crawled-through-a-sewer-to-attack-avdiivka-ukrainian-drones-were-waiting-for-them/?sh=6758094f5cca

[Mik]

WWII strategy, or lack of any strategy at all.

[Wim]

Meanwhile this happened:
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/07/major-chinese-bank-halts-all-settlements-with-russia-vedomosti-a84001

[Wim]

And this is happening as well:
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/27740

[taiwan_girl]

@Wim That is interesting. China is pretty much the only major trading partner for Russia now. If they lose China...........

It is surprising that Chian would do this. With all of the domestic problems (including exports) they are having, I wonder the reasoning.

[George K]

Submarine fleet got bigger

[Wim]

Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

[George K]