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The Ukraine war thread

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  • George KG Offline
    George KG Offline
    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #2043

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • W Offline
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      Wim
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      #2044

      A long read (on drones and Zelenski vs his top general), but worth it. https://stefankorshak.substack.com/p/feb-3-day-710-droning-on-about-drones?utm_medium=reader2

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      • W Wim

        A long read (on drones and Zelenski vs his top general), but worth it. https://stefankorshak.substack.com/p/feb-3-day-710-droning-on-about-drones?utm_medium=reader2

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #2045

        @Wim very interesting stuff about the importance and effectiveness of drone warfare.

        He claims that it makes artillery partially obsolete. I’m not sure how true that is, but it’s certainly an interesting claim.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #2046

          It’s certainly more precise.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #2047

            Speaking of Drones...

            Wow.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              Speaking of Drones...

              Wow.

              taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
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              #2048

              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Wow.

              Yes, wow!!

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                #2049

                Battle or meat grinder for Adiivka continues. Russian losses estimated at 13:1.
                Suspect George’s video above documents what is happening on the ground there:

                https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/30/russian-troops-crawled-through-a-sewer-to-attack-avdiivka-ukrainian-drones-were-waiting-for-them/?sh=6758094f5cca

                Elbows up!

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #2050

                  WWII strategy, or lack of any strategy at all.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • W Offline
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                    Wim
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                    #2051

                    Meanwhile this happened:
                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/07/major-chinese-bank-halts-all-settlements-with-russia-vedomosti-a84001

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                    • W Offline
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                      Wim
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                      #2052

                      And this is happening as well:
                      https://www.kyivpost.com/post/27740

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                      • W Wim

                        Meanwhile this happened:
                        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/07/major-chinese-bank-halts-all-settlements-with-russia-vedomosti-a84001

                        taiwan_girlT Offline
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                        taiwan_girl
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                        #2053

                        @Wim That is interesting. China is pretty much the only major trading partner for Russia now. If they lose China...........

                        It is surprising that Chian would do this. With all of the domestic problems (including exports) they are having, I wonder the reasoning.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by George K
                          #2054

                          Submarine fleet got bigger

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • W Offline
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                            Wim
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                            #2055

                            Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                            https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #2056

                              GGSMAaCXEAA0B_z.jpeg

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • W Wim

                                Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #2057

                                @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

                                I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  GGSxt5SW8AACKgA.jpeg

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

                                    I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

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                                    Wim
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

                                    Beware of "Track II". The Kurds have experienced something alike.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                      https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

                                      I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

                                      RenaudaR Offline
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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                      #2060

                                      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                      https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

                                      I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

                                      This issue was debated here three months ago in December. The US must be at the table along side Ukraine as honest broker, arbitrator and guarantor. It’s all about winning the peace.

                                      https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/28373/the-zoomies-are-not-all-right/19?_=1707917152632

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • MikM Away
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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by Mik
                                        #2061

                                        His hope is to incent Biden to bite in an election year with a difficult Congress, yet still retain occupied territory. It’s to Biden’s credit that he refused.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                          #2062

                                          The Kremlin has wasted no time in denying it made such an offer to the US:

                                          https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/14/kremlin-denies-report-that-putin-offered-ukraine-truce-to-us-a84076

                                          That probably means that the report is true. Besides, Putin as much as said in his sermon/lecture to FuCa last week that he is prepared to negotiate Ukraine’s continued existence with any sitting US president. Makes sense, since Putin rejects the notion that Ukraine is a sovereign country or even exists.

                                          Elbows up!

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