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    Jolly
    wrote on 1 Feb 2024, 13:36 last edited by
    #2038

    Russia has a huge Black Sea problem. Even if they could, Turkey won't let their navy through the straits to reenforce what they have.

    So what they have, is what they have. And what they have, is dwindling...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • J Jolly
      1 Feb 2024, 13:36

      Russia has a huge Black Sea problem. Even if they could, Turkey won't let their navy through the straits to reenforce what they have.

      So what they have, is what they have. And what they have, is dwindling...

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      George K
      wrote on 1 Feb 2024, 13:39 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Turkey won't let their navy through the straits to reenforce what they have.

      I'd forgotten about that. Yeah, that's a yuge issue.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
        wrote on 1 Feb 2024, 15:07 last edited by
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        Interesting list - the Russian Navy

        1 aircraft carrier
        2 battlecruisers
        2 cruisers
        10 destroyers
        11 frigates
        80 corvettes
        11 landing ship tanks
        60 landing craft
        18 special-purpose ships
        4 patrol ships
        56 patrol boats
        45 mine countermeasures vessels
        8 special-purpose submarines
        65 active ballistic missile/cruise missile and attack submarines

        The "IVanovets"

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantul-class_corvette

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • J Jolly
          1 Feb 2024, 13:36

          Russia has a huge Black Sea problem. Even if they could, Turkey won't let their navy through the straits to reenforce what they have.

          So what they have, is what they have. And what they have, is dwindling...

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          George K
          wrote on 1 Feb 2024, 15:51 last edited by
          #2041

          @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Russia has a huge Black Sea problem.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 2 Feb 2024, 14:21 last edited by
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on 3 Feb 2024, 14:05 last edited by
              #2043

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Wim
                wrote on 4 Feb 2024, 18:53 last edited by
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                A long read (on drones and Zelenski vs his top general), but worth it. https://stefankorshak.substack.com/p/feb-3-day-710-droning-on-about-drones?utm_medium=reader2

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                • W Wim
                  4 Feb 2024, 18:53

                  A long read (on drones and Zelenski vs his top general), but worth it. https://stefankorshak.substack.com/p/feb-3-day-710-droning-on-about-drones?utm_medium=reader2

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                  George K
                  wrote on 4 Feb 2024, 20:17 last edited by
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                  @Wim very interesting stuff about the importance and effectiveness of drone warfare.

                  He claims that it makes artillery partially obsolete. I’m not sure how true that is, but it’s certainly an interesting claim.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 4 Feb 2024, 22:16 last edited by
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                    It’s certainly more precise.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      George K
                      wrote on 5 Feb 2024, 12:38 last edited by
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                      Speaking of Drones...

                      Wow.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • G George K
                        5 Feb 2024, 12:38

                        Speaking of Drones...

                        Wow.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 5 Feb 2024, 14:53 last edited by
                        #2048

                        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Wow.

                        Yes, wow!!

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 7 Feb 2024, 15:41 last edited by Renauda 2 Jul 2024, 15:45
                          #2049

                          Battle or meat grinder for Adiivka continues. Russian losses estimated at 13:1.
                          Suspect George’s video above documents what is happening on the ground there:

                          https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/30/russian-troops-crawled-through-a-sewer-to-attack-avdiivka-ukrainian-drones-were-waiting-for-them/?sh=6758094f5cca

                          Elbows up!

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 7 Feb 2024, 16:02 last edited by
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                            WWII strategy, or lack of any strategy at all.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Wim
                              wrote on 7 Feb 2024, 16:41 last edited by
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                              Meanwhile this happened:
                              https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/07/major-chinese-bank-halts-all-settlements-with-russia-vedomosti-a84001

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                                Wim
                                wrote on 7 Feb 2024, 16:47 last edited by Wim 2 Jul 2024, 16:47
                                #2052

                                And this is happening as well:
                                https://www.kyivpost.com/post/27740

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                                • W Wim
                                  7 Feb 2024, 16:41

                                  Meanwhile this happened:
                                  https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/07/major-chinese-bank-halts-all-settlements-with-russia-vedomosti-a84001

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on 7 Feb 2024, 16:47 last edited by
                                  #2053

                                  @Wim That is interesting. China is pretty much the only major trading partner for Russia now. If they lose China...........

                                  It is surprising that Chian would do this. With all of the domestic problems (including exports) they are having, I wonder the reasoning.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 14 Feb 2024, 10:28 last edited by George K
                                    #2054

                                    Submarine fleet got bigger

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Wim
                                      wrote on 14 Feb 2024, 11:36 last edited by
                                      #2055

                                      Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                      https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 14 Feb 2024, 11:39 last edited by
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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • W Wim
                                          14 Feb 2024, 11:36

                                          Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                          https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 14 Feb 2024, 11:40 last edited by
                                          #2057

                                          @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          Putin wants to talk about ceasefire?
                                          https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28053

                                          I almost stopped reading at "Russia says," but I see that the US insists that Kyiv be part of the talks, and Putin said nyet.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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