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  • G George K
    9 Jun 2023, 18:34

    Drone crashes into residential building in Russia’s Voronezh

    Photos of the residential complex allegedly damaged during the attack appeared on Telegram. Preliminary information suggests the drone may have been flying towards the Baltimor airfield but collided with a window of a residential building, reported pro-Russian channel Baza

    Russia was quick to blame Ukraine, with Dmitry Peskov, the spokesperson for Russian dictator Vladimir Putin, making the accusation, Russian propagandist media reported.

    "The Kyiv regime continues to attack civilian infrastructure and residential buildings. The activities of the Kyiv regime persist, and we continue to fight against it," Peskov lied.

    The balls...

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    George K
    wrote on 11 Jun 2023, 14:19 last edited by George K 6 Nov 2023, 14:19
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    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

    The balls...

    Screenshot 2023-06-11 at 9.13.06 AM.png

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • J Jolly
      10 Jun 2023, 01:30

      Don't think the Ukrainians have enough armor or experience to do full combined arms maneuver warfare. I also think the Russians are using cannon fodder on the front, holding their better troops for the counter punch.

      That would be classic WW2 Soviet doctrine...

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      Renauda
      wrote on 11 Jun 2023, 15:11 last edited by
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      @Jolly

      I also think the Russians are using cannon fodder on the front, holding their better troops for the counter punch.

      I agree that they are using cannon fodder on the front. But I do not agree they are holding better troops back for the counter punch.

      There is a malaise among the ranks and junior officers that is growing deeper by the day. I believe they realize that the special military operation has never had anything to do with protecting the Motherland.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65871232

      Elbows up!

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        Mik
        wrote on 11 Jun 2023, 15:39 last edited by
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        I agree. I don't think they have any better troops, or at least not enough to make a difference.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Mik
          wrote on 12 Jun 2023, 12:30 last edited by
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          Is our Russians learning?

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-improved-weaponry-and-tactics-pose-challenges-to-ukraine-s-counteroffensive/ar-AA1cqEWC?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2ae213a2f6654f8583398c763477c30b&ei=60

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Renauda
            wrote on 12 Jun 2023, 14:59 last edited by
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            Interesting psycho-philosophical commentary on the Russian mindset of destruction:

            https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/11/ecocide-russia-ukraine-war-kakhovka-dam-destroyed

            Elbows up!

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              Mik
              wrote on 12 Jun 2023, 21:46 last edited by
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              Very interesting.

              This is not psychological, but it rings true

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-other-battle-in-ukraine-no-one-s-talking-about/ar-AA1cj9WM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=44d4371ef086401d98ce2a585ffe4df7&ei=8

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • G George K referenced this topic on 13 Jun 2023, 12:43
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                Jolly
                wrote on 13 Jun 2023, 15:41 last edited by
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                Patton goes to Ukraine...

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/m60-the-tank-america-built-to-beat-russia-if-world-war-iii-broke-out/ar-AA18D8MC?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=W129&cvid=6ebe53e39f7241828d58bd811d800b27&ei=12

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Wim
                  wrote on 14 Jun 2023, 13:15 last edited by
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                  Heartbreaking...

                  https://www.politico.eu/article/chechen-leader-missing-brother-ukrainian-strike/

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                  • W Wim
                    14 Jun 2023, 13:15

                    Heartbreaking...

                    https://www.politico.eu/article/chechen-leader-missing-brother-ukrainian-strike/

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                    George K
                    wrote on 14 Jun 2023, 13:21 last edited by
                    #1739

                    @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Heartbreaking...

                    https://www.politico.eu/article/chechen-leader-missing-brother-ukrainian-strike/

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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 14 Jun 2023, 13:29 last edited by Mik
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                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 14 Jun 2023, 15:45 last edited by Renauda
                        #1741

                        Apparently, regrettably and, sadly, the “Chechen hero” is doing just fine:

                        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/14/close-kadyrov-ally-injured-in-ukraine-reports-a81502

                        Elbows up!

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 14 Jun 2023, 20:13 last edited by
                          #1742

                          Well, there's always next time.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Wim
                            wrote on 16 Jun 2023, 16:18 last edited by
                            #1743

                            Russian masterminds...

                            https://www.kyivpost.com/post/18292

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 16 Jun 2023, 17:07 last edited by
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                              Russian officials do love to make occasion for solemn speeches.

                              Elbows up!

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 16 Jun 2023, 17:25 last edited by
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                                This one got solemn in a hurry.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 18 Jun 2023, 11:34 last edited by
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                                  Thread

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 18 Jun 2023, 12:20 last edited by
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                                    Wow. What if I told you the invasion failed due to kleptocracy. Talk about hoisted on your own petard.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 18 Jun 2023, 12:40 last edited by
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                                      Maybe this guy is just blowing smoke, but an interesting speculation.

                                      The expert (Yuriy Romaniuk, the head of the “Ukraine in NATO” non-government organization) stressed that Prigozhin is accountable to no one except Russian dictator Vladimir Putin, who wields direct influence over him. Romaniuk stated that over the past six months, the Wagner PMC leader has already begun forging an independent political career.

                                      “(Prigozhin) understands that he has some knowledge of the days and hours (remaining for) Putin’s reign, and he has no doubts about the outcome. He realizes that in the new Russia, commonly referred to as the post-war era, he will have to find a way to survive. Just like he managed to survive in the prison zone, along with his Wagner group and tens of thousands of other inmates.”
                                      Furthermore, the expert stated that, contrary to Prigozhin’s rhetoric, his current focus may depend on the victory of the Ukrainian Armed Forces over Russia.

                                      “Because only in the complete collapse and failure of the Russian Federation and Ukraine’s victory does Prigozhin have the sole opportunity amidst this chaos to seize power, akin to the Bolsheviks’ actions in October 1917,” Romaniuk said.

                                      Romaniuk also asserted that Prigozhin enjoys “more than 30% of electoral support in Russia,” according to UK intelligence estimates.

                                      The conflict between Prigozhin, owner of the Wagner PMC, and the Russian Ministry of Defense could reach a critical stage on July 1, 2023, according to UK intelligence. This date marks the deadline for mercenaries to sign contracts with the ministry.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 12:39 last edited by
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                                        I wouldn't be surprised. Amidst rumors of wholesale theft of war materials, he may have been trying to sabotage the Ukraine war all along.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 20 Jun 2023, 13:38 last edited by
                                          #1750

                                          More threats from Moscow:

                                          https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/20/moscow-warns-kyiv-against-targeting-crimea-with-western-arms-a81570

                                          Elbows up!

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