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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #1734

    Is our Russians learning?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-improved-weaponry-and-tactics-pose-challenges-to-ukraine-s-counteroffensive/ar-AA1cqEWC?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2ae213a2f6654f8583398c763477c30b&ei=60

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by
      #1735

      Interesting psycho-philosophical commentary on the Russian mindset of destruction:

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/11/ecocide-russia-ukraine-war-kakhovka-dam-destroyed

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #1736

        Very interesting.

        This is not psychological, but it rings true

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-other-battle-in-ukraine-no-one-s-talking-about/ar-AA1cj9WM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=44d4371ef086401d98ce2a585ffe4df7&ei=8

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #1737

          Patton goes to Ukraine...

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/m60-the-tank-america-built-to-beat-russia-if-world-war-iii-broke-out/ar-AA18D8MC?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=W129&cvid=6ebe53e39f7241828d58bd811d800b27&ei=12

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • W Offline
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            Wim
            wrote on last edited by
            #1738

            Heartbreaking...

            https://www.politico.eu/article/chechen-leader-missing-brother-ukrainian-strike/

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            • W Wim

              Heartbreaking...

              https://www.politico.eu/article/chechen-leader-missing-brother-ukrainian-strike/

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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #1739

              @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Heartbreaking...

              https://www.politico.eu/article/chechen-leader-missing-brother-ukrainian-strike/

              alt text

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by Mik
                #1740

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                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #1741

                  Apparently, regrettably and, sadly, the “Chechen hero” is doing just fine:

                  https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/14/close-kadyrov-ally-injured-in-ukraine-reports-a81502

                  Elbows up!

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1742

                    Well, there's always next time.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • W Offline
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                      Wim
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1743

                      Russian masterminds...

                      https://www.kyivpost.com/post/18292

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                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1744

                        Russian officials do love to make occasion for solemn speeches.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1745

                          This one got solemn in a hurry.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1746

                            Thread

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1747

                              Wow. What if I told you the invasion failed due to kleptocracy. Talk about hoisted on your own petard.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1748

                                Maybe this guy is just blowing smoke, but an interesting speculation.

                                The expert (Yuriy Romaniuk, the head of the “Ukraine in NATO” non-government organization) stressed that Prigozhin is accountable to no one except Russian dictator Vladimir Putin, who wields direct influence over him. Romaniuk stated that over the past six months, the Wagner PMC leader has already begun forging an independent political career.

                                “(Prigozhin) understands that he has some knowledge of the days and hours (remaining for) Putin’s reign, and he has no doubts about the outcome. He realizes that in the new Russia, commonly referred to as the post-war era, he will have to find a way to survive. Just like he managed to survive in the prison zone, along with his Wagner group and tens of thousands of other inmates.”
                                Furthermore, the expert stated that, contrary to Prigozhin’s rhetoric, his current focus may depend on the victory of the Ukrainian Armed Forces over Russia.

                                “Because only in the complete collapse and failure of the Russian Federation and Ukraine’s victory does Prigozhin have the sole opportunity amidst this chaos to seize power, akin to the Bolsheviks’ actions in October 1917,” Romaniuk said.

                                Romaniuk also asserted that Prigozhin enjoys “more than 30% of electoral support in Russia,” according to UK intelligence estimates.

                                The conflict between Prigozhin, owner of the Wagner PMC, and the Russian Ministry of Defense could reach a critical stage on July 1, 2023, according to UK intelligence. This date marks the deadline for mercenaries to sign contracts with the ministry.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1749

                                  I wouldn't be surprised. Amidst rumors of wholesale theft of war materials, he may have been trying to sabotage the Ukraine war all along.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1750

                                    More threats from Moscow:

                                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/20/moscow-warns-kyiv-against-targeting-crimea-with-western-arms-a81570

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                                      More threats from Moscow:

                                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/20/moscow-warns-kyiv-against-targeting-crimea-with-western-arms-a81570

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1751

                                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      More threats from Moscow:

                                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/20/moscow-warns-kyiv-against-targeting-crimea-with-western-arms-a81570

                                      The balls...

                                      This statement, right after Kiev was bombarded - again.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1752

                                        Nuclear saber rattling again. Smells of desperation but does not mean they won't do something stupid.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1753

                                          Crimea...

                                          https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-ukraine-russia-crimea-counteroffensive-defensive-lines-armiansk-kherson-1808097

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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