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    Renauda
    wrote on 14 Jun 2023, 15:45 last edited by Renauda
    #1741

    Apparently, regrettably and, sadly, the “Chechen hero” is doing just fine:

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/14/close-kadyrov-ally-injured-in-ukraine-reports-a81502

    Elbows up!

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      Jolly
      wrote on 14 Jun 2023, 20:13 last edited by
      #1742

      Well, there's always next time.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Wim
        wrote on 16 Jun 2023, 16:18 last edited by
        #1743

        Russian masterminds...

        https://www.kyivpost.com/post/18292

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          Renauda
          wrote on 16 Jun 2023, 17:07 last edited by
          #1744

          Russian officials do love to make occasion for solemn speeches.

          Elbows up!

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            Mik
            wrote on 16 Jun 2023, 17:25 last edited by
            #1745

            This one got solemn in a hurry.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              George K
              wrote on 18 Jun 2023, 11:34 last edited by
              #1746

              Thread

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 18 Jun 2023, 12:20 last edited by
                #1747

                Wow. What if I told you the invasion failed due to kleptocracy. Talk about hoisted on your own petard.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  George K
                  wrote on 18 Jun 2023, 12:40 last edited by
                  #1748

                  Maybe this guy is just blowing smoke, but an interesting speculation.

                  The expert (Yuriy Romaniuk, the head of the “Ukraine in NATO” non-government organization) stressed that Prigozhin is accountable to no one except Russian dictator Vladimir Putin, who wields direct influence over him. Romaniuk stated that over the past six months, the Wagner PMC leader has already begun forging an independent political career.

                  “(Prigozhin) understands that he has some knowledge of the days and hours (remaining for) Putin’s reign, and he has no doubts about the outcome. He realizes that in the new Russia, commonly referred to as the post-war era, he will have to find a way to survive. Just like he managed to survive in the prison zone, along with his Wagner group and tens of thousands of other inmates.”
                  Furthermore, the expert stated that, contrary to Prigozhin’s rhetoric, his current focus may depend on the victory of the Ukrainian Armed Forces over Russia.

                  “Because only in the complete collapse and failure of the Russian Federation and Ukraine’s victory does Prigozhin have the sole opportunity amidst this chaos to seize power, akin to the Bolsheviks’ actions in October 1917,” Romaniuk said.

                  Romaniuk also asserted that Prigozhin enjoys “more than 30% of electoral support in Russia,” according to UK intelligence estimates.

                  The conflict between Prigozhin, owner of the Wagner PMC, and the Russian Ministry of Defense could reach a critical stage on July 1, 2023, according to UK intelligence. This date marks the deadline for mercenaries to sign contracts with the ministry.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 12:39 last edited by
                    #1749

                    I wouldn't be surprised. Amidst rumors of wholesale theft of war materials, he may have been trying to sabotage the Ukraine war all along.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 20 Jun 2023, 13:38 last edited by
                      #1750

                      More threats from Moscow:

                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/20/moscow-warns-kyiv-against-targeting-crimea-with-western-arms-a81570

                      Elbows up!

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                      • R Renauda
                        20 Jun 2023, 13:38

                        More threats from Moscow:

                        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/20/moscow-warns-kyiv-against-targeting-crimea-with-western-arms-a81570

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                        George K
                        wrote on 20 Jun 2023, 13:42 last edited by
                        #1751

                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        More threats from Moscow:

                        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/20/moscow-warns-kyiv-against-targeting-crimea-with-western-arms-a81570

                        The balls...

                        This statement, right after Kiev was bombarded - again.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 20 Jun 2023, 13:43 last edited by
                          #1752

                          Nuclear saber rattling again. Smells of desperation but does not mean they won't do something stupid.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 22:38 last edited by
                            #1753

                            Crimea...

                            https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-ukraine-russia-crimea-counteroffensive-defensive-lines-armiansk-kherson-1808097

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              George K
                              wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 01:53 last edited by
                              #1754

                              https://www.ft.com/content/befa7180-8f70-4b6a-a113-8300b6f3324a

                              Ukraine’s army struck a bridge that serves as a key supply line between the Crimean peninsula and the southern province of Kherson, Moscow-installed officials in both Russian-occupied regions have said.

                              Coming weeks into Kyiv’s counteroffensive to recapture territory in the south and east, the strike on Chongar bridge threatens to disrupt operations for Russian forces that are battling Ukrainian troops in areas north of the Azov Sea.

                              Crimea, heavily militarised since it was annexed by Russia in 2014, has been used as a staging ground since President Vladimir Putin launched his full-scale invasion of Ukraine 16 months ago. Moscow’s forces occupy a swath of territory north of the Azov Sea that connects Russia with Crimea.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 13:45 last edited by
                                #1755

                                A loose cannon or the president’s puppet?

                                https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/23/wagner-chief-says-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-unjustified-a81609

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 13:51 last edited by
                                  #1756

                                  I think Prigozhin has bigger plans.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Jon
                                    wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 16:02 last edited by
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                                    • M Mik
                                      23 Jun 2023, 13:51

                                      I think Prigozhin has bigger plans.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 21:05 last edited by Renauda
                                      #1758

                                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      I think Prigozhin has bigger plans.

                                      Appears that Putin’s are even biggerly.

                                      Time to tie down that loose cannon.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 21:37 last edited by Mik
                                        #1759

                                        Will Russians follow where Putin is leading if an alternative appears?

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                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 29 Jun 2023, 17:08 last edited by
                                          #1760

                                          Interesting...

                                          https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/06/26/there-are-fancy-ukrainian-brigades-then-theres-the-31st-mechanized-the-unassuming-unit-just-pulled-a-daring-maneuver/?sh=269d7e304dd3

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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