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  • L LuFins Dad
    11 Jan 2023, 19:52

    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Fair weather friendship or mortgage holder?

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/01/10/beijing-fears-russia-becoming-minor-power-under-crazy-putin-ft-a79911

    So where does this debacle place Russia in terms of influence and power?

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    Renauda
    wrote on 11 Jan 2023, 20:05 last edited by
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    @LuFins-Dad

    Right where it is. A permanent member of the UN Security Council with a severe inferiority complex.

    Other than that, not much else.

    Elbows up!

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    • R Renauda
      8 Oct 2022, 21:07

      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

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      Interesting choice, Sergei Surovikin. An Air Force General no less.

      Bio: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Surovikin

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      George K
      wrote on 11 Jan 2023, 22:40 last edited by
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      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Interesting choice, Sergei Surovikin. An Air Force General no less.

      Bio: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Surovikin

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      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-war-russia-names-valery-gerasimov-new-commander-replaces-sergei-surovikin-3-months/

      Russia has again replaced its military commander in Ukraine, putting army chief Valery Gerasimov in charge of its forces in the conflict, the defense ministry said Wednesday.

      "Army General Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian armed forces, has been appointed Commander of the Joint Grouping of Troops (Forces)," the ministry said.

      Sergei Surovikin, the commander of Russia's forces in Ukraine for the past three months, will become Gerasimov's deputy, the ministry said. Surovikin, lionized by Russia's pro-Kremlin press as "General Armageddon," had previously been the commander of Russia's Air Force.

      Meanwhile, Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhaylo Podolyak said Wednesday that Ukraine will be able to win the war in 2023 if it receives more Western weapons, particularly long-range missiles and heavy tanks.

      Otherwise, the war will grind on "for decades," Podolyak told AFP, pointing out that the "bloodiest" fighting was currently taking place in eastern Ukraine in Bakhmut and Soledar.

      "Only missiles with a range of more than 100 kilometers will allow us to significantly accelerate the de-occupation of our territories," he told AFP in an interview.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 14 Jan 2023, 21:49 last edited by
        #1350

        Beavers assisting in defence of Ukraine:

        https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-credits-local-beavers-unwittingly-113757702.html

        Am thinking Canada can send them more beavers if the Russians start targeting their dams.

        Elbows up!

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          Mik
          wrote on 14 Jan 2023, 22:16 last edited by
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          Everybody likes a little beaver.

          Well, maybe not Russians.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Mik
            wrote on 16 Jan 2023, 15:45 last edited by
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            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/testimony-of-a-russian-deserter-if-putin-dies-tomorrow-the-war-is-over/ar-AA16oQSA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=23205568af604347a1aacf2f5699a441

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Renauda
              wrote on 16 Jan 2023, 23:03 last edited by Renauda
              #1353

              Wait, there’s more…

              And now a defector from the Wagner Mob:

              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64296979

              Elbows up!

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              • R Renauda
                16 Jan 2023, 23:03

                Wait, there’s more…

                And now a defector from the Wagner Mob:

                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64296979

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                Mik
                wrote on 17 Jan 2023, 00:46 last edited by
                #1354

                @Renauda

                I’ll take “How do you know when you are well and truly fucked” for $1000.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 17 Jan 2023, 15:11 last edited by
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                  On the surface this might indicate that reality is beginning to sink in to Russian minds. I don’t believe it. Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation. The speaker is critical of the execution of the military tactics but is careful to stay clear of criticising the reasons and assumptions that led to the war itself.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • R Renauda
                    17 Jan 2023, 15:11

                    On the surface this might indicate that reality is beginning to sink in to Russian minds. I don’t believe it. Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation. The speaker is critical of the execution of the military tactics but is careful to stay clear of criticising the reasons and assumptions that led to the war itself.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 17 Jan 2023, 15:12 last edited by
                    #1356

                    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation

                    A "trial balloon," or a "warning balloon?"

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      17 Jan 2023, 15:12

                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation

                      A "trial balloon," or a "warning balloon?"

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 17 Jan 2023, 15:58 last edited by
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                      @George-K

                      Warning balloon.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • G George K
                        17 Jan 2023, 15:12

                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation

                        A "trial balloon," or a "warning balloon?"

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 17 Jan 2023, 22:50 last edited by
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                        @George-K

                        It is a warning balloon in the sense that it appears that the Kremlin propagandists are attempting to turn the special military operation into a new Sacred War and prepping the nation for a full mobilisation.

                        Elbows up!

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                          George K
                          wrote on 17 Jan 2023, 23:05 last edited by
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                          @Renauda , that's what I figured.

                          Have you heard anything from friends in the area what the sentiment is? If you believe the Ukrainian press, there's a lot of coffins headed back to the Motherland.

                          Of course, there's no mention of the coffins staying in-country.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • G George K
                            17 Jan 2023, 23:05

                            @Renauda , that's what I figured.

                            Have you heard anything from friends in the area what the sentiment is? If you believe the Ukrainian press, there's a lot of coffins headed back to the Motherland.

                            Of course, there's no mention of the coffins staying in-country.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 18 Jan 2023, 00:06 last edited by
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                            @George-K

                            Babushka talks about it disparagingly because she is over 75 years old and fears nothing. With others it is never discussed.

                            Ukrainians friends on the other hand are openly consumed with vengeance towards all things Russian. Like I said a year ago, the Ukrainians will make the Provo IRA look like Boy Scouts.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • R Renauda
                              18 Jan 2023, 00:06

                              @George-K

                              Babushka talks about it disparagingly because she is over 75 years old and fears nothing. With others it is never discussed.

                              Ukrainians friends on the other hand are openly consumed with vengeance towards all things Russian. Like I said a year ago, the Ukrainians will make the Provo IRA look like Boy Scouts.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 18 Jan 2023, 00:08 last edited by
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                              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              Ukrainians friends on the other hand are openly consumed with vengeance towards all things Russian.

                              A good indication of that was the removal of the statue of Catherine.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • G George K
                                18 Jan 2023, 00:08

                                @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                Ukrainians friends on the other hand are openly consumed with vengeance towards all things Russian.

                                A good indication of that was the removal of the statue of Catherine.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 18 Jan 2023, 00:15 last edited by Renauda
                                #1362

                                @George-K

                                The statue had been removed in the 1990s then put back sometime in the last decade. No big deal as we all know statues come and go. In any case Catherine was a German princess who usurped the throne from her Prussophile and German speaking yet nominally Russian Romanov husband, Peter III. No loss.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 20 Jan 2023, 22:36 last edited by
                                  #1363

                                  A Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2 call sign ‘FCKPTN2’ (Fuck Putin 2) is currently active over Ukraine.

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 21 Jan 2023, 02:13 last edited by
                                    #1364

                                    It looks fake

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                                    • C Copper
                                      21 Jan 2023, 02:13

                                      It looks fake

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 21 Jan 2023, 02:42 last edited by
                                      #1365

                                      @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      It looks fake

                                      Yeah, what would you know about tracking flights?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 21 Jan 2023, 03:13 last edited by
                                        #1366

                                        IIRC, think I read where the Russians are in the midst of a big call-up.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          21 Jan 2023, 03:13

                                          IIRC, think I read where the Russians are in the midst of a big call-up.

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 21 Jan 2023, 04:22 last edited by Renauda
                                          #1367

                                          @Jolly

                                          Not yet but I think it’s coming soon.

                                          Elbows up!

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