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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

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    Interesting choice, Sergei Surovikin. An Air Force General no less.

    Bio: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Surovikin

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    George K
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    #1349

    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Interesting choice, Sergei Surovikin. An Air Force General no less.

    Bio: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Surovikin

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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-war-russia-names-valery-gerasimov-new-commander-replaces-sergei-surovikin-3-months/

    Russia has again replaced its military commander in Ukraine, putting army chief Valery Gerasimov in charge of its forces in the conflict, the defense ministry said Wednesday.

    "Army General Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian armed forces, has been appointed Commander of the Joint Grouping of Troops (Forces)," the ministry said.

    Sergei Surovikin, the commander of Russia's forces in Ukraine for the past three months, will become Gerasimov's deputy, the ministry said. Surovikin, lionized by Russia's pro-Kremlin press as "General Armageddon," had previously been the commander of Russia's Air Force.

    Meanwhile, Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhaylo Podolyak said Wednesday that Ukraine will be able to win the war in 2023 if it receives more Western weapons, particularly long-range missiles and heavy tanks.

    Otherwise, the war will grind on "for decades," Podolyak told AFP, pointing out that the "bloodiest" fighting was currently taking place in eastern Ukraine in Bakhmut and Soledar.

    "Only missiles with a range of more than 100 kilometers will allow us to significantly accelerate the de-occupation of our territories," he told AFP in an interview.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Renauda
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      #1350

      Beavers assisting in defence of Ukraine:

      https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-credits-local-beavers-unwittingly-113757702.html

      Am thinking Canada can send them more beavers if the Russians start targeting their dams.

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
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        #1351

        Everybody likes a little beaver.

        Well, maybe not Russians.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
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          #1352

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/testimony-of-a-russian-deserter-if-putin-dies-tomorrow-the-war-is-over/ar-AA16oQSA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=23205568af604347a1aacf2f5699a441

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #1353

            Wait, there’s more…

            And now a defector from the Wagner Mob:

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64296979

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              Wait, there’s more…

              And now a defector from the Wagner Mob:

              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64296979

              MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #1354

              @Renauda

              I’ll take “How do you know when you are well and truly fucked” for $1000.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Renauda
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                #1355

                On the surface this might indicate that reality is beginning to sink in to Russian minds. I don’t believe it. Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation. The speaker is critical of the execution of the military tactics but is careful to stay clear of criticising the reasons and assumptions that led to the war itself.

                Elbows up!

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  On the surface this might indicate that reality is beginning to sink in to Russian minds. I don’t believe it. Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation. The speaker is critical of the execution of the military tactics but is careful to stay clear of criticising the reasons and assumptions that led to the war itself.

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                  George K
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                  #1356

                  @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation

                  A "trial balloon," or a "warning balloon?"

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation

                    A "trial balloon," or a "warning balloon?"

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1357

                    @George-K

                    Warning balloon.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • George KG George K

                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation

                      A "trial balloon," or a "warning balloon?"

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1358

                      @George-K

                      It is a warning balloon in the sense that it appears that the Kremlin propagandists are attempting to turn the special military operation into a new Sacred War and prepping the nation for a full mobilisation.

                      Elbows up!

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                        George K
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                        @Renauda , that's what I figured.

                        Have you heard anything from friends in the area what the sentiment is? If you believe the Ukrainian press, there's a lot of coffins headed back to the Motherland.

                        Of course, there's no mention of the coffins staying in-country.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Renauda , that's what I figured.

                          Have you heard anything from friends in the area what the sentiment is? If you believe the Ukrainian press, there's a lot of coffins headed back to the Motherland.

                          Of course, there's no mention of the coffins staying in-country.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1360

                          @George-K

                          Babushka talks about it disparagingly because she is over 75 years old and fears nothing. With others it is never discussed.

                          Ukrainians friends on the other hand are openly consumed with vengeance towards all things Russian. Like I said a year ago, the Ukrainians will make the Provo IRA look like Boy Scouts.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            @George-K

                            Babushka talks about it disparagingly because she is over 75 years old and fears nothing. With others it is never discussed.

                            Ukrainians friends on the other hand are openly consumed with vengeance towards all things Russian. Like I said a year ago, the Ukrainians will make the Provo IRA look like Boy Scouts.

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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1361

                            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Ukrainians friends on the other hand are openly consumed with vengeance towards all things Russian.

                            A good indication of that was the removal of the statue of Catherine.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              Ukrainians friends on the other hand are openly consumed with vengeance towards all things Russian.

                              A good indication of that was the removal of the statue of Catherine.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by Renauda
                              #1362

                              @George-K

                              The statue had been removed in the 1990s then put back sometime in the last decade. No big deal as we all know statues come and go. In any case Catherine was a German princess who usurped the throne from her Prussophile and German speaking yet nominally Russian Romanov husband, Peter III. No loss.

                              Elbows up!

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                                George K
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                                A Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2 call sign ‘FCKPTN2’ (Fuck Putin 2) is currently active over Ukraine.

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • CopperC Online
                                  CopperC Online
                                  Copper
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1364

                                  It looks fake

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                                  • CopperC Copper

                                    It looks fake

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                                    George K
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                                    #1365

                                    @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    It looks fake

                                    Yeah, what would you know about tracking flights?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1366

                                      IIRC, think I read where the Russians are in the midst of a big call-up.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        IIRC, think I read where the Russians are in the midst of a big call-up.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #1367

                                        @Jolly

                                        Not yet but I think it’s coming soon.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          Couple of things.

                                          One news report (ABC?) claimed that Russian casualties are now in excess of 100,000. The surprising thing is not the number (Ukranian sources have been saying this for months), but that a major news outlet is reporting that number. IIRC, the British Ministry of Defence reported that number a few months ago.

                                          And this:

                                          U.S. officials advise Ukraine to wait on offensive

                                          Senior U.S. officials are advising Ukraine to hold off on launching a major offensive against Russian forces until the latest supply of U.S. weaponry is in place and training has been provided, a senior Biden administration official said on Friday.

                                          The official, speaking to a small group of reporters on condition of anonymity, said the United States was holding fast to its decision not to provide Abrams tanks to Ukraine at this time, amid a controversy with Germany over tanks.

                                          President Joe Biden, who approved a new $2.5 billion weapons package for Ukraine this week, told reporters at the White House, "Ukraine is going to get all the help they need," when asked if he supports Poland's intention to send German-made Leopard tanks to Ukraine.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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