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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #1302

    Somebody has to run out of will, money or bodies at some point.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Somebody has to run out of will, money or bodies at some point.

      RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #1303

      @Jolly

      Although it has an abundance of will to defend itself, Ukraine is out of money and running out of bodies.

      Russia is flush with cash, has plenty of bodies in reserve and is sufficiently deluded to believe in its own infallibility to fight NATO indefinitely.

      Elbows up!

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        @Jolly

        Although it has an abundance of will to defend itself, Ukraine is out of money and running out of bodies.

        Russia is flush with cash, has plenty of bodies in reserve and is sufficiently deluded to believe in its own infallibility to fight NATO indefinitely.

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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #1304

        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

        Ukraine is out of money and running out of bodies.

        Several sources claim > 90K Russian dead. If the ⅓ ratio holds, that adds up to 270K casualties.

        I've not seen anything about Ukranian casualties. I imagine it's probably similar.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Ukraine is out of money and running out of bodies.

          Several sources claim > 90K Russian dead. If the ⅓ ratio holds, that adds up to 270K casualties.

          I've not seen anything about Ukranian casualties. I imagine it's probably similar.

          RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #1305

          @George-K

          I can’t imagine Ukrainian casualties being much different.

          Casualty estimates for both sides is a cloudy issue that’s for sure. I came across the following this morning breaking down confirmed Russian KIAs:

          https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/12/16/5-graphs-analyzing-10000-russian-soldiers-confirmed-killed-in-ukraine-a79699

          Elbows up!

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #1306

            I saw this in the New York Times earlier today, and it's a long, LONG, article.

            This Twitter thread hits the highlights (lowlights?).

            https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1604142037770575872.html

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on last edited by
              #1307

              Why do Russians have so much trouble with stairs?

              The Brad

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #1308

                One Russian tank unit attacks another over argument. Love this. Maakes you wonder if one day the Russian occupiers may desert and turn Ukrainian. Wouldn't that be something.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-russian-tank-unit-deliberately-attacked-another-russian-position-in-ukraine-report-says-illustrating-vicious-rivalries-within-putin-s-army/ar-AA15q1Kf?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=85f3fc7219314acdbb1130fc1b59a9aa

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1309

                  Wow.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Wow.

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1310

                    @jon-nyc they'll have to leave the country to buy them, I assume.

                    Perhaps they'll also be encouraged by the musicians and circus performers at the front.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #1311

                      More mobilizations coming?

                      2/ This follows earlier indications that the Russian authorities are preparing to mobilise government and emergency service workers, including police officers and firefighters, as well as more civilians.

                      3/ According to the Baza Telegram channel, Moscow police officers have been given a list of items that they must immediately acquire for themselves, as early as today. They have reportedly been told their bags will be checked for compliance.

                      4/ The list includes items such as clothes, towels, a compass, a torch, an combat mission plotter, a day's worth of food, a one-litre flask of water and a first-aid kit. The officers were additionally ordered to pack a sleeping bag and a camping mat.

                      5/ The purpose of the order isn't stated, but as the Military Ombudsman Telegram channel notes, "for those involved in the army, the purpose of such a duffel bag is quite recognisable." /end

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #1312

                        Zelensky in Washington tomorrow?

                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64047058

                        Am seeing this on other sites as well.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1313

                          Putin says war in Ukraine not Russia’s fault:

                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64055018

                          Sure glad he cleared up that question.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1314

                            During a televised address with senior military officials, the Russian president said he continued to see Ukraine as a "brotherly nation".

                            "For years, we tried to build good-neighbourly relations with Ukraine, offering loans and cheap energy, but it did not work."

                            Unreal. He blithely ignores Crimea, Georgia and 8 years of a border war on Donetsk and Luhansk.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              During a televised address with senior military officials, the Russian president said he continued to see Ukraine as a "brotherly nation".

                              "For years, we tried to build good-neighbourly relations with Ukraine, offering loans and cheap energy, but it did not work."

                              Unreal. He blithely ignores Crimea, Georgia and 8 years of a border war on Donetsk and Luhansk.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1315

                              @Mik

                              Not only unreal but truly delusional.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1316

                                TFW you forgot it's picture day.

                                Fki03U2X0AMHYJ9.png

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  TFW you forgot it's picture day.

                                  Fki03U2X0AMHYJ9.png

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1317

                                  @George-K

                                  Who are the others with Zelenskyi and McConnell?

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                                    @George-K

                                    Who are the others with Zelenskyi and McConnell?

                                    George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1318

                                    @Renauda the woman (Can I say that?) is Sen. Collins from Maine.

                                    "In this handout photo provided by the Ukrainian Presidential Press Office, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy (center) poses for a photo with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (second left), Senator Susan Collins (second right), Senator John Barrasso (left) and Senator John Cornyn (right) in Kyiv, Ukraine, on Saturday, May 14, 2022."

                                    It's an older photo, and I just posted it for the look on Zelensky's face.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1319

                                      His speech was fine though. Reaching out to the American people was smart. I do hope the reluctant incoming GOP congress critters get a clue as to how important this really is.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1320

                                        Interesting piece on Putin and the real situation. Wordier than it needs to be, but worth it, I think.

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-brain-and-the-ukraine-disaster-what-does-the-russian-leader-really-want/ar-AA15yKSa?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=edc53d35afb94bc18bc016c6b84983f5

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          Interesting piece on Putin and the real situation. Wordier than it needs to be, but worth it, I think.

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-brain-and-the-ukraine-disaster-what-does-the-russian-leader-really-want/ar-AA15yKSa?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=edc53d35afb94bc18bc016c6b84983f5

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                          #1321

                                          @Mik

                                          You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

                                          Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

                                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

                                          Elbows up!

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