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  • George KG George K

    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Ukraine is out of money and running out of bodies.

    Several sources claim > 90K Russian dead. If the ⅓ ratio holds, that adds up to 270K casualties.

    I've not seen anything about Ukranian casualties. I imagine it's probably similar.

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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #1305

    @George-K

    I can’t imagine Ukrainian casualties being much different.

    Casualty estimates for both sides is a cloudy issue that’s for sure. I came across the following this morning breaking down confirmed Russian KIAs:

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/12/16/5-graphs-analyzing-10000-russian-soldiers-confirmed-killed-in-ukraine-a79699

    Elbows up!

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      George K
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      #1306

      I saw this in the New York Times earlier today, and it's a long, LONG, article.

      This Twitter thread hits the highlights (lowlights?).

      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1604142037770575872.html

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        LuFins Dad
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        #1307

        Why do Russians have so much trouble with stairs?

        The Brad

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #1308

          One Russian tank unit attacks another over argument. Love this. Maakes you wonder if one day the Russian occupiers may desert and turn Ukrainian. Wouldn't that be something.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-russian-tank-unit-deliberately-attacked-another-russian-position-in-ukraine-report-says-illustrating-vicious-rivalries-within-putin-s-army/ar-AA15q1Kf?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=85f3fc7219314acdbb1130fc1b59a9aa

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            jon-nyc
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            #1309

            Wow.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Wow.

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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #1310

              @jon-nyc they'll have to leave the country to buy them, I assume.

              Perhaps they'll also be encouraged by the musicians and circus performers at the front.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
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                #1311

                More mobilizations coming?

                2/ This follows earlier indications that the Russian authorities are preparing to mobilise government and emergency service workers, including police officers and firefighters, as well as more civilians.

                3/ According to the Baza Telegram channel, Moscow police officers have been given a list of items that they must immediately acquire for themselves, as early as today. They have reportedly been told their bags will be checked for compliance.

                4/ The list includes items such as clothes, towels, a compass, a torch, an combat mission plotter, a day's worth of food, a one-litre flask of water and a first-aid kit. The officers were additionally ordered to pack a sleeping bag and a camping mat.

                5/ The purpose of the order isn't stated, but as the Military Ombudsman Telegram channel notes, "for those involved in the army, the purpose of such a duffel bag is quite recognisable." /end

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #1312

                  Zelensky in Washington tomorrow?

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64047058

                  Am seeing this on other sites as well.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Renauda
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                    #1313

                    Putin says war in Ukraine not Russia’s fault:

                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64055018

                    Sure glad he cleared up that question.

                    Elbows up!

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                      #1314

                      During a televised address with senior military officials, the Russian president said he continued to see Ukraine as a "brotherly nation".

                      "For years, we tried to build good-neighbourly relations with Ukraine, offering loans and cheap energy, but it did not work."

                      Unreal. He blithely ignores Crimea, Georgia and 8 years of a border war on Donetsk and Luhansk.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        During a televised address with senior military officials, the Russian president said he continued to see Ukraine as a "brotherly nation".

                        "For years, we tried to build good-neighbourly relations with Ukraine, offering loans and cheap energy, but it did not work."

                        Unreal. He blithely ignores Crimea, Georgia and 8 years of a border war on Donetsk and Luhansk.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1315

                        @Mik

                        Not only unreal but truly delusional.

                        Elbows up!

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                          George K
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                          #1316

                          TFW you forgot it's picture day.

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            TFW you forgot it's picture day.

                            Fki03U2X0AMHYJ9.png

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1317

                            @George-K

                            Who are the others with Zelenskyi and McConnell?

                            Elbows up!

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                            • RenaudaR Renauda

                              @George-K

                              Who are the others with Zelenskyi and McConnell?

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                              George K
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                              #1318

                              @Renauda the woman (Can I say that?) is Sen. Collins from Maine.

                              "In this handout photo provided by the Ukrainian Presidential Press Office, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy (center) poses for a photo with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (second left), Senator Susan Collins (second right), Senator John Barrasso (left) and Senator John Cornyn (right) in Kyiv, Ukraine, on Saturday, May 14, 2022."

                              It's an older photo, and I just posted it for the look on Zelensky's face.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1319

                                His speech was fine though. Reaching out to the American people was smart. I do hope the reluctant incoming GOP congress critters get a clue as to how important this really is.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1320

                                  Interesting piece on Putin and the real situation. Wordier than it needs to be, but worth it, I think.

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-brain-and-the-ukraine-disaster-what-does-the-russian-leader-really-want/ar-AA15yKSa?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=edc53d35afb94bc18bc016c6b84983f5

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    Interesting piece on Putin and the real situation. Wordier than it needs to be, but worth it, I think.

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-brain-and-the-ukraine-disaster-what-does-the-russian-leader-really-want/ar-AA15yKSa?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=edc53d35afb94bc18bc016c6b84983f5

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                    #1321

                                    @Mik

                                    You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

                                    Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

                                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                                      @Mik

                                      You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

                                      Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

                                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

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                                      xenon
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                                      #1322

                                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      @Mik

                                      You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

                                      Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

                                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

                                      “You’re forcing our hand by shooting down all the missiles we’re launching at you”

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                                      • X xenon

                                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        @Mik

                                        You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

                                        Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

                                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

                                        “You’re forcing our hand by shooting down all the missiles we’re launching at you”

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #1323

                                        @xenon

                                        The most common word in the Kremlin-speak this past year or so has become провокация (provokatsiya). It needs no translation. A was common Soviet term used throughout the Cold War against the West as well. It is supposed to help to reinforce the blameless innocence of the Russian state in its peace loving aggressive foreign policy and militarism.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          George K
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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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