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    George K
    wrote on 11 Dec 2022, 17:40 last edited by
    #1280

    Screenshot 2022-12-11 at 11.37.21 AM.png

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      11 Dec 2022, 17:40

      Screenshot 2022-12-11 at 11.37.21 AM.png

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      Renauda
      wrote on 11 Dec 2022, 17:45 last edited by Renauda 12 Nov 2022, 17:45
      #1281

      @George-K

      Lads does sound better. Boys is the more common. Singular is khlopchik.

      Elbows up!

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      • M Mik
        11 Dec 2022, 17:34

        Hunting boys. Ok. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 11 Dec 2022, 22:56 last edited by
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        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

        Hunting boys. Ok. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

        Okay, so I forgot the comma after hunting. Fixed now.

        Elbows up!

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          Mik
          wrote on 12 Dec 2022, 21:48 last edited by
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          Russian diplomat complains to Turkey about Ukraine military's aggressive behavior. Seriously, you could not make this stuff up.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-complains-of-ukraine-military-s-aggressive-behavior/ar-AA15b6P7?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=06917008c8274f62a1e354093a45f8bf

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            George K
            wrote on 12 Dec 2022, 21:57 last edited by
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            And yesterday, Putin "justified" the attacks on infrastructure with the comparison of the attack on the Karch bridge.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Mik
              wrote on 13 Dec 2022, 16:33 last edited by
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              Shooting those who show fear?

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-soldiers-executed-for-showing-fear-captured-recruit-says/ar-AA15dZGS?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9150581bc2df441387090870b8fa72a2

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • M Mik
                13 Dec 2022, 16:33

                Shooting those who show fear?

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-soldiers-executed-for-showing-fear-captured-recruit-says/ar-AA15dZGS?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9150581bc2df441387090870b8fa72a2

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                Renauda
                wrote on 13 Dec 2022, 20:04 last edited by
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                @Mik

                The Wagner group appears to be a cross between an armed Latin American militia and the Nazi Einsatzgruppen.

                Elbows up!

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 14 Dec 2022, 14:45 last edited by Renauda
                  #1287

                  Here is a 10 minute video report describing how Putin’s propaganda has shifted over the course of the past 9 months:

                  Putin’s Propaganda Machine Shifts its Tone on Ukraine

                  Elbows up!

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                  • R Renauda
                    14 Dec 2022, 14:45

                    Here is a 10 minute video report describing how Putin’s propaganda has shifted over the course of the past 9 months:

                    Putin’s Propaganda Machine Shifts its Tone on Ukraine

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                    George K
                    wrote on 14 Dec 2022, 14:49 last edited by
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                    @Renauda no surprise that the message has changed.

                    But this is a nice compilation.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 14 Dec 2022, 15:04 last edited by
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                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-deals-hammer-blow-to-russia-s-war-effort/ar-AA15dTRa?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4821ba7548c3414dbbacf664f736e79a

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        George K
                        wrote on 15 Dec 2022, 00:38 last edited by
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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 16 Dec 2022, 06:29 last edited by
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                          Russia planning new offensive in new year:

                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63995244

                          Elbows up!

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                            16 Dec 2022, 06:29

                            Russia planning new offensive in new year:

                            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63995244

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                            George K
                            wrote on 16 Dec 2022, 12:32 last edited by
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                            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Russia planning new offensive in new year:

                            I imagine they've learned a lot from their missteps last February.

                            OTOH, just how good are the mobiks? They've burned through a lot of materiel in 10 months (about 3K tanks, 200 aircraft). I imagine supplies are dwindling.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 16 Dec 2022, 14:27 last edited by
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                              This is all well and good. I just wish we'd stop announcing it and giving the location.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-to-expand-combat-training-for-ukrainian-troops/ar-AA15kxQO?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f60ce41f3f3e43d9ab5441a4c4184571

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • M Mik
                                16 Dec 2022, 14:27

                                This is all well and good. I just wish we'd stop announcing it and giving the location.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-to-expand-combat-training-for-ukrainian-troops/ar-AA15kxQO?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f60ce41f3f3e43d9ab5441a4c4184571

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 16 Dec 2022, 16:47 last edited by
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                                @Mik

                                I see another side to announcing it. It is an open declaration of defiance to Putin’s intimidation tactics against NATO. It also counters Kremlin disinformation regarding covert NATO support to Ukraine. I trust that the Pentagon knows what it is doing.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 16 Dec 2022, 17:19 last edited by
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                                  Could be.

                                  For all his nuclear saber rattling, I can't imagine Putin has too much confidence in his nuclear forces after the performance of his conventional ones.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 16 Dec 2022, 18:16 last edited by
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                                    It's interesting (for lack of a better word) to see Putin's objection to the US delivery of Patriot missiles to Ukraine. This is 100% a defensive weapon.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 16 Dec 2022, 18:21 last edited by
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                                      Maybe the US troops aren't operating the equipment, but it sounds like they are standing there watching it operate. And they are training the guys operating it.

                                      That is pretty close to fighting in the war.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 16 Dec 2022, 23:34 last edited by
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                                        Kissinger says we should not crush Russia but should negotiate. He thinks Ukraine should cede territory to Russia. I will consider what he says, but it is near impossible to think Russia should be rewarded for aggression.

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-suffering-crippling-loss-in-ukraine-threatens-world-order-kissinger/ar-AA15mZZ1?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=312ff191994d47eca422f68f09b2ec94

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • M Mik
                                          16 Dec 2022, 23:34

                                          Kissinger says we should not crush Russia but should negotiate. He thinks Ukraine should cede territory to Russia. I will consider what he says, but it is near impossible to think Russia should be rewarded for aggression.

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-suffering-crippling-loss-in-ukraine-threatens-world-order-kissinger/ar-AA15mZZ1?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=312ff191994d47eca422f68f09b2ec94

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 17 Dec 2022, 00:26 last edited by
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                                          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          t is near impossible to think Russia should be rewarded for aggression.

                                          The reward isn't for the aggression, it's for winning.

                                          Or in the case of a negotiated settlement, the reward is negotiated. Stopping the aggression is worth something.

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