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    George K
    wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 14:41 last edited by
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    Ukrainian troops surrounded in Kherson:

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 14:50 last edited by
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      There's a guy who keeps track of all Russian losses in a google database.

      The sidebar lets you look at individual items, as well as trends.

      Fascinating.

      https://datastudio.google.com/reporting/dfbcec47-7b01-400e-ab21-de8eb98c8f3a/page/IzToC?s=pDAeJUAm1lY

      Here's a screenshot.

      Screenshot 2022-11-11 at 8.50.14 AM.png

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 12 Nov 2022, 10:43 last edited by
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        Russia soldier gets grenades dropped on him by a drone. Throws them away just before they explode.

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          George K
          wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 01:36 last edited by
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          Not news, but another shot of demonstrations in Kherson.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 15:22 last edited by
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 15:26 last edited by George K
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              In what kind of army does this even happen?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 19:15 last edited by
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                Complete disarray.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • G George K
                  14 Nov 2022, 15:26

                  In what kind of army does this even happen?

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 22:14 last edited by
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                  @George-K

                  Wow!

                  Elbows up!

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                    14 Nov 2022, 19:15

                    Complete disarray.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 22:25 last edited by
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                    @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Complete disarray.

                    Probably misarray too.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 22:59 last edited by
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                      Putin The Beaten: Russia Lost Kherson And It Looks Bad In Ukraine

                      The withdrawal from Kherson cost the Russian forces dearly. Over the last couple of weeks, the Russian military has been averaging 500 casualties every day, an unsustainable rate of losses for any military that wishes to conduct offensive operations on three fronts without any large-scale reinforcements.

                      Overall, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense claimed that as of Monday, Ukrainian forces have killed approximately 81,370 Russian troops (and wounded approximately thrice that number), destroyed 278 fighter, attack, bomber, and transport jets, 261 attack and transport helicopters, 2,848 tanks, 1,839 artillery pieces, 5,748 armored personnel carriers, and infantry fighting vehicles, 393 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS), 16 boats and cutters, 4,316 vehicles and fuel tanks, 206 anti-aircraft batteries, 1,509 tactical unmanned aerial systems, 160 special equipment platforms, such as bridging vehicles, and four mobile Iskander ballistic missile systems, and 399 cruise missiles shot down by the Ukrainian air defenses.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 15:01 last edited by
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                        Russia just doesn’t get it:

                        The Kremlin said it would work to stop the West seizing its international reserves to pay for reparations.

                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63632819

                        Sent from my iPhone

                        Elbows up!

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                          George K
                          wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 20:06 last edited by George K
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                          Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

                          https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • G George K
                            15 Nov 2022, 20:06

                            Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

                            https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 20:13 last edited by LuFins Dad
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                            @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

                            https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

                            Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…

                            The Brad

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                              15 Nov 2022, 20:13

                              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

                              https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

                              Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 20:46 last edited by
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                              @LuFins-Dad said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

                              https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

                              Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…

                              Major wars start over such errors.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                George K
                                wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 01:02 last edited by
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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 01:27 last edited by
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                                  Read the comments - doesn't seem all that reliable.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 04:33 last edited by Renauda
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                                    Regardless of where the missile was fired from, AWACS staff had one hell of wild day today. Still, if the missile was a Ukrainian air defence rocket that went astray the fault still rests on the Kremlin. That weapon would not have been fired unless the Russians had initiated their own missile attack into that area of western Ukraine.

                                    Either way, Putin owns it

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • R Renauda
                                      16 Nov 2022, 04:33

                                      Regardless of where the missile was fired from, AWACS staff had one hell of wild day today. Still, if the missile was a Ukrainian air defence rocket that went astray the fault still rests on the Kremlin. That weapon would not have been fired unless the Russians had initiated their own missile attack into that area of western Ukraine.

                                      Either way, Putin owns it

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 12:25 last edited by
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                                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      Either way, Putin owns it

                                      Agreed. Most are saying that it was fired from Ukraine as a defense against incoming Russian missiles.

                                      Darth opines:

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • G George K
                                        14 Nov 2022, 15:26

                                        In what kind of army does this even happen?

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 15:00 last edited by
                                        #1229

                                        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        In what kind of army does this even happen?

                                        Consequences:

                                        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/16/russian-soldier-faces-15-years-in-jail-after-criticizing-poor-training-reports-a79389

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • G George K
                                          16 Nov 2022, 12:25

                                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          Either way, Putin owns it

                                          Agreed. Most are saying that it was fired from Ukraine as a defense against incoming Russian missiles.

                                          Darth opines:

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 15:44 last edited by
                                          #1230

                                          @George-K

                                          NATO's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said that "Russia bears ultimate responsibility, as it continues its illegal war against Ukraine," while also stating there were no signs the missile incident was intentional.

                                          "An investigation is ongoing, and we need to await its outcome, but we have no indication that this was an assault or a deliberate attack," Stoltenberg said, adding that there is no proof that "Russia is preparing offensive military actions against NATO."

                                          https://www.euronews.com/2022/11/16/poland-blast-biden-says-missile-that-killed-two-may-not-have-come-from-russia

                                          Elbows up!

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