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  • George KG George K

    In what kind of army does this even happen?

    RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by
    #1218

    @George-K

    Wow!

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Mik

      Complete disarray.

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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by
      #1219

      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Complete disarray.

      Probably misarray too.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #1220

        Putin The Beaten: Russia Lost Kherson And It Looks Bad In Ukraine

        The withdrawal from Kherson cost the Russian forces dearly. Over the last couple of weeks, the Russian military has been averaging 500 casualties every day, an unsustainable rate of losses for any military that wishes to conduct offensive operations on three fronts without any large-scale reinforcements.

        Overall, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense claimed that as of Monday, Ukrainian forces have killed approximately 81,370 Russian troops (and wounded approximately thrice that number), destroyed 278 fighter, attack, bomber, and transport jets, 261 attack and transport helicopters, 2,848 tanks, 1,839 artillery pieces, 5,748 armored personnel carriers, and infantry fighting vehicles, 393 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS), 16 boats and cutters, 4,316 vehicles and fuel tanks, 206 anti-aircraft batteries, 1,509 tactical unmanned aerial systems, 160 special equipment platforms, such as bridging vehicles, and four mobile Iskander ballistic missile systems, and 399 cruise missiles shot down by the Ukrainian air defenses.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by
          #1221

          Russia just doesn’t get it:

          The Kremlin said it would work to stop the West seizing its international reserves to pay for reparations.

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63632819

          Sent from my iPhone

          Elbows up!

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by George K
            #1222

            Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

            https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

              https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

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              LuFins Dad
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              #1223

              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

              https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

              Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

                https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

                Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #1224

                @LuFins-Dad said in The Ukraine war thread:

                @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

                https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

                Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…

                Major wars start over such errors.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1225

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1226

                    Read the comments - doesn't seem all that reliable.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
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                      #1227

                      Regardless of where the missile was fired from, AWACS staff had one hell of wild day today. Still, if the missile was a Ukrainian air defence rocket that went astray the fault still rests on the Kremlin. That weapon would not have been fired unless the Russians had initiated their own missile attack into that area of western Ukraine.

                      Either way, Putin owns it

                      Elbows up!

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        Regardless of where the missile was fired from, AWACS staff had one hell of wild day today. Still, if the missile was a Ukrainian air defence rocket that went astray the fault still rests on the Kremlin. That weapon would not have been fired unless the Russians had initiated their own missile attack into that area of western Ukraine.

                        Either way, Putin owns it

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #1228

                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Either way, Putin owns it

                        Agreed. Most are saying that it was fired from Ukraine as a defense against incoming Russian missiles.

                        Darth opines:

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          In what kind of army does this even happen?

                          RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1229

                          @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          In what kind of army does this even happen?

                          Consequences:

                          https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/16/russian-soldier-faces-15-years-in-jail-after-criticizing-poor-training-reports-a79389

                          Elbows up!

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Either way, Putin owns it

                            Agreed. Most are saying that it was fired from Ukraine as a defense against incoming Russian missiles.

                            Darth opines:

                            RenaudaR Offline
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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1230

                            @George-K

                            NATO's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said that "Russia bears ultimate responsibility, as it continues its illegal war against Ukraine," while also stating there were no signs the missile incident was intentional.

                            "An investigation is ongoing, and we need to await its outcome, but we have no indication that this was an assault or a deliberate attack," Stoltenberg said, adding that there is no proof that "Russia is preparing offensive military actions against NATO."

                            https://www.euronews.com/2022/11/16/poland-blast-biden-says-missile-that-killed-two-may-not-have-come-from-russia

                            Elbows up!

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                            • MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1231

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

                                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #1232

                                @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

                                Apparently, he shot himself 5 times and then brutally accidentally cut off his own head with a pair of scissors.

                                I was only joking

                                George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

                                  Apparently, he shot himself 5 times and then brutally accidentally cut off his own head with a pair of scissors.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1233

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Apparently, he shot himself 5 times and then brutally accidentally cut off his own head with a pair of scissors.

                                  With four pistols.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1234

                                    Overkill?

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1235

                                      Cri-mea river.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-swan-song-cri-me-a-river/ar-AA14dI33?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=073a2143db3b41d39ae0cf9d5b2d0d34

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

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                                        Renauda
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                                        #1236

                                        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-colonel-found-dead-in-his-office-under-mysterious-circumstances-here-s-what-we-know/ar-AA14eux4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b92f4cf697784a168939debebac993c4

                                        Vladivostok is a tough mob controlled city where bribery of officials is normal and life is cheap. Could very well be that some mobster’s brat was called up and the deceased Colonel wouldn’t play the game unless he received more money. Could be that it some of local hoods were called up and simply didn’t want go. Could be that the deceased just didn’t show enough respect for a mob boss. Could be anything or nothing. He got whacked that’s all.,

                                        Doubt they will find out why he he got whacked and by whom - that they pronounced it a suicide suggests to me that the investigators were covered and paid well in advance.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          George K
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                                          #1237

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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