The Ukraine war thread

[George K]

@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-is-wary-of-russias-kherson-retreat-fearing-a-trap-11668078822?mod=e2tw

Ukrainian officials urged caution about Russia’s announced withdrawal from the southern city of Kherson, as U.S. officials estimated that 100,000 troops on each side had been killed or wounded since the war began.

Russia said on Wednesday that it was pulling troops from Kherson and surrounding areas, abandoning the only regional capital it had seized since its invasion in February and boosting Ukraine’s campaign to regain lost land.

But officials in Kyiv have warned that the Russian claim could be a way of luring Ukrainian soldiers into a bloody fight for the city, where signs suggest Russia still has a sizable contingent of forces and has booby-trapped key objects of infrastructure to slow Ukraine’s advance.

“It’s important to understand: No one leaves any place just like that,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in his late-night video address on Wednesday.

Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Mr. Zelensky, said Kyiv is seeing no sign that Russia will leave Kherson without a fight. The Russian military has heavily mined the city, he said on Thursday, and plans to use artillery positioned on the eastern bank to turn urban areas into ruin. Kherson, he said in a tweet, may be turned into a “city of death.”

[Mik]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-set-to-skip-g20-summit-after-learning-another-world-leader-will-slap-him-in-the-face-over-war-with-ukraine/ar-AA13VTxF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a111bea4985c4eebb0d65a3dd5785e3a

[jon-nyc]

[Renauda]

@George-K

Here’s a good follow up report more or less confirming that the Kremlin is undertaking a maskirovka with this supposed retreat:

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/11/08/undesirable-but-likely

[George K]

Ukrainian troops surrounded in Kherson:

[George K]

There's a guy who keeps track of all Russian losses in a google database.

The sidebar lets you look at individual items, as well as trends.

Fascinating.

https://datastudio.google.com/reporting/dfbcec47-7b01-400e-ab21-de8eb98c8f3a/page/IzToC?s=pDAeJUAm1lY

Here's a screenshot.

[taiwan_girl]

Russia soldier gets grenades dropped on him by a drone. Throws them away just before they explode.

[George K]

Not news, but another shot of demonstrations in Kherson.

[George K]

[George K]

In what kind of army does this even happen?

[Mik]

Complete disarray.

[Renauda]

@George-K

Wow!

[Copper]

@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

Complete disarray.

Probably misarray too.

[George K]

Putin The Beaten: Russia Lost Kherson And It Looks Bad In Ukraine

The withdrawal from Kherson cost the Russian forces dearly. Over the last couple of weeks, the Russian military has been averaging 500 casualties every day, an unsustainable rate of losses for any military that wishes to conduct offensive operations on three fronts without any large-scale reinforcements.

Overall, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense claimed that as of Monday, Ukrainian forces have killed approximately 81,370 Russian troops (and wounded approximately thrice that number), destroyed 278 fighter, attack, bomber, and transport jets, 261 attack and transport helicopters, 2,848 tanks, 1,839 artillery pieces, 5,748 armored personnel carriers, and infantry fighting vehicles, 393 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS), 16 boats and cutters, 4,316 vehicles and fuel tanks, 206 anti-aircraft batteries, 1,509 tactical unmanned aerial systems, 160 special equipment platforms, such as bridging vehicles, and four mobile Iskander ballistic missile systems, and 399 cruise missiles shot down by the Ukrainian air defenses.

[Renauda]

Russia just doesn’t get it:

The Kremlin said it would work to stop the West seizing its international reserves to pay for reparations.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63632819

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[George K]

Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in The Ukraine war thread:

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-kherson-9202c032cf3a5c22761ee71b52ff9d52?taid=6373e1a578439d000178fba6&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…

Major wars start over such errors.

[George K]

[jon-nyc]

Read the comments - doesn't seem all that reliable.