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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by Mik
    #1200

    Wow. How do you fight with an army like that? This is one area where I disagree with McCarthy and the like. We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory. Any negotiation sounds to me like "Peace in our time".

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      Wow. How do you fight with an army like that? This is one area where I disagree with McCarthy and the like. We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory. Any negotiation sounds to me like "Peace in our time".

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by
      #1201

      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Wow. How do you fight with an army like that?

      Badly

      I was only joking

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #1202

        They used the f-word. They need to be canceled.

        The Brad

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Wow. How do you fight with an army like that?

          Badly

          RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by
          #1203

          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Wow. How do you fight with an army like that?

          Badly

          I have said for some weeks now it’s just a matter of time that the Russian soldiers will starting voting with their feet as they did in 1917. Maybe we’re are seeing the beginnings of that vote.

          Elbows up!

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          • MikM Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #1204

            Another one bites the dust. Sadly, not in the conventional sense.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-pulls-commander-in-ukraine-following-criticism-over-battlefield-losses/ar-AA13Q44p?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=eea485b200554f129be1ed55941372d9

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              Wow. How do you fight with an army like that? This is one area where I disagree with McCarthy and the like. We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory. Any negotiation sounds to me like "Peace in our time".

              CopperC Offline
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              Copper
              wrote on last edited by
              #1205

              @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

              We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory.

              Because we don't want them to turn on us.

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                #1206

                Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:

                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387

                Elbows up!

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1207

                  @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387

                  https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-is-wary-of-russias-kherson-retreat-fearing-a-trap-11668078822?mod=e2tw

                  Ukrainian officials urged caution about Russia’s announced withdrawal from the southern city of Kherson, as U.S. officials estimated that 100,000 troops on each side had been killed or wounded since the war began.

                  Russia said on Wednesday that it was pulling troops from Kherson and surrounding areas, abandoning the only regional capital it had seized since its invasion in February and boosting Ukraine’s campaign to regain lost land.

                  But officials in Kyiv have warned that the Russian claim could be a way of luring Ukrainian soldiers into a bloody fight for the city, where signs suggest Russia still has a sizable contingent of forces and has booby-trapped key objects of infrastructure to slow Ukraine’s advance.

                  “It’s important to understand: No one leaves any place just like that,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in his late-night video address on Wednesday.

                  Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Mr. Zelensky, said Kyiv is seeing no sign that Russia will leave Kherson without a fight. The Russian military has heavily mined the city, he said on Thursday, and plans to use artillery positioned on the eastern bank to turn urban areas into ruin. Kherson, he said in a tweet, may be turned into a “city of death.”

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1208

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-set-to-skip-g20-summit-after-learning-another-world-leader-will-slap-him-in-the-face-over-war-with-ukraine/ar-AA13VTxF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a111bea4985c4eebb0d65a3dd5785e3a

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      jon-nyc
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                      #1209

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:

                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387

                        https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-is-wary-of-russias-kherson-retreat-fearing-a-trap-11668078822?mod=e2tw

                        Ukrainian officials urged caution about Russia’s announced withdrawal from the southern city of Kherson, as U.S. officials estimated that 100,000 troops on each side had been killed or wounded since the war began.

                        Russia said on Wednesday that it was pulling troops from Kherson and surrounding areas, abandoning the only regional capital it had seized since its invasion in February and boosting Ukraine’s campaign to regain lost land.

                        But officials in Kyiv have warned that the Russian claim could be a way of luring Ukrainian soldiers into a bloody fight for the city, where signs suggest Russia still has a sizable contingent of forces and has booby-trapped key objects of infrastructure to slow Ukraine’s advance.

                        “It’s important to understand: No one leaves any place just like that,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in his late-night video address on Wednesday.

                        Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Mr. Zelensky, said Kyiv is seeing no sign that Russia will leave Kherson without a fight. The Russian military has heavily mined the city, he said on Thursday, and plans to use artillery positioned on the eastern bank to turn urban areas into ruin. Kherson, he said in a tweet, may be turned into a “city of death.”

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1210

                        @George-K

                        Here’s a good follow up report more or less confirming that the Kremlin is undertaking a maskirovka with this supposed retreat:

                        https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/11/08/undesirable-but-likely

                        Elbows up!

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1211

                          Ukrainian troops surrounded in Kherson:

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1212

                            There's a guy who keeps track of all Russian losses in a google database.

                            The sidebar lets you look at individual items, as well as trends.

                            Fascinating.

                            https://datastudio.google.com/reporting/dfbcec47-7b01-400e-ab21-de8eb98c8f3a/page/IzToC?s=pDAeJUAm1lY

                            Here's a screenshot.

                            Screenshot 2022-11-11 at 8.50.14 AM.png

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1213

                              Russia soldier gets grenades dropped on him by a drone. Throws them away just before they explode.

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1214

                                Not news, but another shot of demonstrations in Kherson.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1215

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by George K
                                    #1216

                                    In what kind of army does this even happen?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1217

                                      Complete disarray.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        In what kind of army does this even happen?

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1218

                                        @George-K

                                        Wow!

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          Complete disarray.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1219

                                          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          Complete disarray.

                                          Probably misarray too.

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