The Ukraine war thread
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Wow. How do you fight with an army like that? This is one area where I disagree with McCarthy and the like. We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory. Any negotiation sounds to me like "Peace in our time".
wrote on 7 Nov 2022, 21:46 last edited by@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:
We should support Ukraine for as long as it takes to achieve victory.
Because we don't want them to turn on us.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 15:51 last edited by Renauda 11 Sept 2022, 17:18
Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:
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Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:
wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 12:42 last edited by@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:
Ukrainian officials urged caution about Russia’s announced withdrawal from the southern city of Kherson, as U.S. officials estimated that 100,000 troops on each side had been killed or wounded since the war began.
Russia said on Wednesday that it was pulling troops from Kherson and surrounding areas, abandoning the only regional capital it had seized since its invasion in February and boosting Ukraine’s campaign to regain lost land.
But officials in Kyiv have warned that the Russian claim could be a way of luring Ukrainian soldiers into a bloody fight for the city, where signs suggest Russia still has a sizable contingent of forces and has booby-trapped key objects of infrastructure to slow Ukraine’s advance.
“It’s important to understand: No one leaves any place just like that,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in his late-night video address on Wednesday.
Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Mr. Zelensky, said Kyiv is seeing no sign that Russia will leave Kherson without a fight. The Russian military has heavily mined the city, he said on Thursday, and plans to use artillery positioned on the eastern bank to turn urban areas into ruin. Kherson, he said in a tweet, may be turned into a “city of death.”
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wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 16:33 last edited by
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
Russians supposedly retreating from Kherson city. Ukrainian forces should remain cautious as I am sure it does not mean all Russian troops will be withdrawn any time soon:
Ukrainian officials urged caution about Russia’s announced withdrawal from the southern city of Kherson, as U.S. officials estimated that 100,000 troops on each side had been killed or wounded since the war began.
Russia said on Wednesday that it was pulling troops from Kherson and surrounding areas, abandoning the only regional capital it had seized since its invasion in February and boosting Ukraine’s campaign to regain lost land.
But officials in Kyiv have warned that the Russian claim could be a way of luring Ukrainian soldiers into a bloody fight for the city, where signs suggest Russia still has a sizable contingent of forces and has booby-trapped key objects of infrastructure to slow Ukraine’s advance.
“It’s important to understand: No one leaves any place just like that,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in his late-night video address on Wednesday.
Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Mr. Zelensky, said Kyiv is seeing no sign that Russia will leave Kherson without a fight. The Russian military has heavily mined the city, he said on Thursday, and plans to use artillery positioned on the eastern bank to turn urban areas into ruin. Kherson, he said in a tweet, may be turned into a “city of death.”
wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 16:39 last edited byHere’s a good follow up report more or less confirming that the Kremlin is undertaking a maskirovka with this supposed retreat:
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/11/08/undesirable-but-likely
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wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 14:50 last edited by
There's a guy who keeps track of all Russian losses in a google database.
The sidebar lets you look at individual items, as well as trends.
Fascinating.
Here's a screenshot.
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wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 15:26 last edited by George K
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wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 19:15 last edited by
Complete disarray.
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wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 22:59 last edited by
Putin The Beaten: Russia Lost Kherson And It Looks Bad In Ukraine
The withdrawal from Kherson cost the Russian forces dearly. Over the last couple of weeks, the Russian military has been averaging 500 casualties every day, an unsustainable rate of losses for any military that wishes to conduct offensive operations on three fronts without any large-scale reinforcements.
Overall, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense claimed that as of Monday, Ukrainian forces have killed approximately 81,370 Russian troops (and wounded approximately thrice that number), destroyed 278 fighter, attack, bomber, and transport jets, 261 attack and transport helicopters, 2,848 tanks, 1,839 artillery pieces, 5,748 armored personnel carriers, and infantry fighting vehicles, 393 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS), 16 boats and cutters, 4,316 vehicles and fuel tanks, 206 anti-aircraft batteries, 1,509 tactical unmanned aerial systems, 160 special equipment platforms, such as bridging vehicles, and four mobile Iskander ballistic missile systems, and 399 cruise missiles shot down by the Ukrainian air defenses.
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wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 15:01 last edited by
Russia just doesn’t get it:
The Kremlin said it would work to stop the West seizing its international reserves to pay for reparations.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63632819
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wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 20:06 last edited by George K
Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..
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Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..
wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 20:13 last edited by LuFins Dad@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..
Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…
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@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..
Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…
wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 20:46 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in The Ukraine war thread:
@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
Russian missiles, land in Poland, killing two..
Well crap… Obviously it’s close enough to the border that it can be claimed to be error, and it probably was… But it could also be a poke just to see how NATO responds…
Major wars start over such errors.
