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    Renauda
    wrote on 20 Oct 2022, 19:46 last edited by
    #1120

    Pentagon maintains Iranian military specialists in Crimea training Russians in drone deployment:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2022/oct/20/republicans-ukraine-military-aid-biden-fetterman-midterms-politics-latest

    Elbows up!

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      20 Oct 2022, 19:31

      @Aqua-Letifer

      My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 20 Oct 2022, 22:38 last edited by
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      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

      @Aqua-Letifer

      My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

      So you think he wants nuclear WWIII?

      Please love yourself.

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        George K
        wrote on 20 Oct 2022, 23:32 last edited by
        #1122

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          20 Oct 2022, 22:38

          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Aqua-Letifer

          My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

          So you think he wants nuclear WWIII?

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          Renauda
          wrote on 21 Oct 2022, 03:08 last edited by
          #1123

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Aqua-Letifer

          My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

          So you think he wants nuclear WWIII?

          No, he wants to reclaim all lands and territories that he believes are historically and rightfully belonging to Russia. It is, in his mind, an absolute truth.

          Moreover he spelled it all out detail in July 2021. No one took the mythology seriously at the time but he meant every word of it. Here, have at it:

          http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

          Elbows up!

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          • R Renauda
            21 Oct 2022, 03:08

            @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Aqua-Letifer

            My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

            So you think he wants nuclear WWIII?

            No, he wants to reclaim all lands and territories that he believes are historically and rightfully belonging to Russia. It is, in his mind, an absolute truth.

            Moreover he spelled it all out detail in July 2021. No one took the mythology seriously at the time but he meant every word of it. Here, have at it:

            http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 21 Oct 2022, 04:00 last edited by
            #1124

            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Aqua-Letifer

            My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

            So you think he wants nuclear WWIII?

            No, he wants to reclaim all lands and territories that he believes are historically and rightfully belonging to Russia. It is, in his mind, an absolute truth.

            Moreover he spelled it all out detail in July 2021. No one took the mythology seriously at the time but he meant every word of it. Here, have at it:

            http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

            It's amazing to read that and then look back at the news footage of the ramp-up to this war. Everyone and their mother was saying they weren't really going to invade.

            Please love yourself.

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              21 Oct 2022, 04:00

              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

              @Aqua-Letifer

              My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

              So you think he wants nuclear WWIII?

              No, he wants to reclaim all lands and territories that he believes are historically and rightfully belonging to Russia. It is, in his mind, an absolute truth.

              Moreover he spelled it all out detail in July 2021. No one took the mythology seriously at the time but he meant every word of it. Here, have at it:

              http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

              It's amazing to read that and then look back at the news footage of the ramp-up to this war. Everyone and their mother was saying they weren't really going to invade.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 21 Oct 2022, 14:28 last edited by Renauda
              #1125

              @Aqua-Letifer

              That’s right, virtually no one, not even the experts thought he would invade.

              On the other hand Putin’s thesis did spell out to those who read it that he held the West and open democracy in complete contempt. It also laid bare his paranoia wholly warped sense of history. At least that is how I read and understood it at the time. Up to that point I was not only open to some of Putin’s grievances with the West but also the Russian claim to Crimea. His written rant induced me to revisit his actions over the past twenty odd years and during the course of the ensuing months leading up to the invasion, I realized just how much I had been error.

              Putin represents a truly malevolent idea and force in the world, there is no dispute about that any longer.

              Elbows up!

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                Renauda
                wrote on 21 Oct 2022, 22:21 last edited by
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                Don’t know what it means or what gave rise to it but under the circumstances it can’t make things any worse than they are:

                https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/21/russian-defense-minister-us-counterpart-discuss-ukraine-in-rare-phone-call-a79162

                Elbows up!

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 00:32 last edited by
                  #1127

                  Not sure what that could mean other than seeking US support for peace - peace meaning carving out parts of Ukraine.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • M Mik
                    22 Oct 2022, 00:32

                    Not sure what that could mean other than seeking US support for peace - peace meaning carving out parts of Ukraine.

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 00:54 last edited by Renauda
                    #1128

                    @Mik

                    My gut feeling is that it had more to do with the current NATO exercises in Europe, Iranian drone specialists in Crimea and recent incidents involving Russian and NATO aircraft in proximity to one another and designated airspace.

                    Carving up someone else’s country fall within the job descriptions of Heads of State and their respective Foreign Ministers and Sect’y s of State.

                    Elbows up!

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                      George K
                      wrote on 23 Oct 2022, 20:15 last edited by
                      #1129

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 23 Oct 2022, 21:17 last edited by
                        #1130

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex-russian-diplomat-warns-putin-is-willing-to-sacrifice-20-million-soldiers-to-win-the-war-with-ukraine/ar-AA13hqQZ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=adc7719ab4644636aa6bc76182a42886#image=AA13i0ag|12

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          George K
                          wrote on 24 Oct 2022, 12:17 last edited by
                          #1131

                          alt text

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 24 Oct 2022, 14:38 last edited by
                            #1132

                            The war in winter...

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/winter-s-onset-will-change-the-war-in-ukraine/ar-AA13jFX9?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=64c07ecef87b42ebbd76eb143673081c

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 24 Oct 2022, 20:46 last edited by Renauda
                              #1133

                              If past actions are any indicator, the Kremlin is the process of blaming Ukraine and, by extension, NATO, for an operation Russia itself is planning to execute:

                              https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/24/russia-claims-ukraine-in-final-stage-of-creating-dirty-bomb-a79176

                              Elbows up!

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 25 Oct 2022, 10:59 last edited by
                                #1134

                                Lots of LNG heading to Europe - if they can take it in.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/wave-of-lng-tankers-is-overwhelming-europe-in-energy-crisis-and-hitting-natural-gas-prices/ar-AA13kAS1?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e49cfeb0f6ae423290cc3a5f4eb61703

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 25 Oct 2022, 15:46 last edited by
                                  #1135

                                  The usual B. S. but also with some surprise commentary as to why "Russia's enemies" have yet to take Russia's dirty bomb allegations seriously.

                                  At least one Russian pundit appears to be clueing in on reality.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • R Renauda
                                    25 Oct 2022, 15:46

                                    The usual B. S. but also with some surprise commentary as to why "Russia's enemies" have yet to take Russia's dirty bomb allegations seriously.

                                    At least one Russian pundit appears to be clueing in on reality.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 25 Oct 2022, 17:36 last edited by
                                    #1136

                                    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    At least one Russian pundit appears to be clueing in on reality.

                                    That guy's pretty brave. The clear embarrassment on all the other faces was pretty funny.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 25 Oct 2022, 18:23 last edited by
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                                      Out: Nazis.

                                      In: Satan.

                                      Ff7NSWOXEAIEups.png

                                      alt text

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 25 Oct 2022, 18:30 last edited by
                                        #1138

                                        In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • G George K
                                          25 Oct 2022, 18:23

                                          Out: Nazis.

                                          In: Satan.

                                          Ff7NSWOXEAIEups.png

                                          alt text

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 25 Oct 2022, 18:42 last edited by
                                          #1139

                                          @George-K

                                          FFS

                                          Elbows up!

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