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  • MikM Mik

    Not sure what that could mean other than seeking US support for peace - peace meaning carving out parts of Ukraine.

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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #1128

    @Mik

    My gut feeling is that it had more to do with the current NATO exercises in Europe, Iranian drone specialists in Crimea and recent incidents involving Russian and NATO aircraft in proximity to one another and designated airspace.

    Carving up someone else’s country fall within the job descriptions of Heads of State and their respective Foreign Ministers and Sect’y s of State.

    Elbows up!

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      George K
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      #1129

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #1130

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex-russian-diplomat-warns-putin-is-willing-to-sacrifice-20-million-soldiers-to-win-the-war-with-ukraine/ar-AA13hqQZ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=adc7719ab4644636aa6bc76182a42886#image=AA13i0ag|12

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #1131

          alt text

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            #1132

            The war in winter...

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/winter-s-onset-will-change-the-war-in-ukraine/ar-AA13jFX9?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=64c07ecef87b42ebbd76eb143673081c

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #1133

              If past actions are any indicator, the Kremlin is the process of blaming Ukraine and, by extension, NATO, for an operation Russia itself is planning to execute:

              https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/24/russia-claims-ukraine-in-final-stage-of-creating-dirty-bomb-a79176

              Elbows up!

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              • MikM Offline
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                #1134

                Lots of LNG heading to Europe - if they can take it in.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/wave-of-lng-tankers-is-overwhelming-europe-in-energy-crisis-and-hitting-natural-gas-prices/ar-AA13kAS1?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e49cfeb0f6ae423290cc3a5f4eb61703

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  #1135

                  The usual B. S. but also with some surprise commentary as to why "Russia's enemies" have yet to take Russia's dirty bomb allegations seriously.

                  At least one Russian pundit appears to be clueing in on reality.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    The usual B. S. but also with some surprise commentary as to why "Russia's enemies" have yet to take Russia's dirty bomb allegations seriously.

                    At least one Russian pundit appears to be clueing in on reality.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1136

                    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    At least one Russian pundit appears to be clueing in on reality.

                    That guy's pretty brave. The clear embarrassment on all the other faces was pretty funny.

                    I was only joking

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      Out: Nazis.

                      In: Satan.

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                      alt text

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        #1138

                        In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • George KG George K

                          Out: Nazis.

                          In: Satan.

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                          alt text

                          RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
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                          #1139

                          @George-K

                          FFS

                          Elbows up!

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                          • MikM Mik

                            In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1140

                            @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

                            That's SO 1980.

                            image.png

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              #1141

                              I bet he didn't get invited to many parties. Has all the charm and warmth of Bill Belechick.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • George KG George K

                                @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

                                That's SO 1980.

                                image.png

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                                Renauda
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                                #1142

                                @George-K

                                Welcome to the roaring 2020’s:

                                8802053f-0409-4830-83f7-78dc2a656c07-image.jpeg https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLr8a9zmg8wn4apsKbR4mI6em5i0XJDvxucg&usqp=CAU

                                Self appointed and self anointed Defenders of the Faith.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Abandoned Russian base holds secrets of retreat in Ukraine

                                  In all, the bunker yielded thousands of pages of documents. Reuters reviewed more than a thousand of them. They detail the inner workings of the Russian military and shed new light on events leading up to one of President Vladimir Putin's most stinging battlefield defeats: Russia’s chaotic retreat from Ukraine’s northeast in September.

                                  In the weeks before that defeat, Russian forces were struggling with surveillance and electronic warfare. They were using off-the-shelf drones flown by barely trained soldiers. Their equipment for jamming Ukrainian communications was often out of action.  By the end of August, the documents show, the force was depleted, hit by death, desertions and combat stress. Two units – accounting for about a sixth of the total force – were operating at 20% of their full strength.

                                  The documents also reveal the increasing effectiveness of Ukraine’s forces and offer clues to how the eight-month-old war might unfold, with Russia now under intense pressure on the southern front around the Black Sea coast. In the weeks before their retreat, Russian forces around Balakliia, a town 90 kilometres south of Kharkiv, came under heavy bombardment from HIMARS rocket launchers, recently supplied by the United States. The precision missiles repeatedly hit command posts.

                                  A Russian officer who served in the Balakliia force for three months, described to Reuters a sense of menace hanging over the occupiers. One of his friends bled to death in early September after a Ukrainian strike on a command post in a nearby village.

                                  “It’s a game of roulette,” said the officer, who asked to be identified by his military call sign Plakat Junior 888. “You either get lucky, or you are unlucky. The strikes can land anywhere.”

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1144

                                    image.jpeg

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                      #1145

                                      Insightful interview with Mykola Bielieskov, Ukrainian military analyst, on fighting an asymmetrical war.

                                      Excerpt:

                                      I am inclined to think that the nuclear strike option is actually very, very risky for Putin and his regime. If it happens, then all the states which adopted favourable or neutral positions toward Russia will revise them. The strike will also be the point of no return for the West. Up to now, the Biden Administration has regularly emphasized that the US policy endgame is not regime change in Russia but a change of Russian foreign policy. However, if the nuclear taboo gets violated, then I think regime change will become a primary goal of US policy. Global security should not be dependent on one person who is, I would say, out of touch with reality.

                                      Complete interview:

                                      https://ukrainian-studies.ca/2022/10/25/mykola-bielieskov-ukrainians-forced-into-fighting-an-asymmetrical-war-getting-good-at-it/

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1146

                                        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          LOL.

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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