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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @Aqua-Letifer

    My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on last edited by
    #1121

    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @Aqua-Letifer

    My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

    So you think he wants nuclear WWIII?

    Please love yourself.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #1122

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

        @Aqua-Letifer

        My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

        So you think he wants nuclear WWIII?

        RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by
        #1123

        @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

        @Aqua-Letifer

        My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

        So you think he wants nuclear WWIII?

        No, he wants to reclaim all lands and territories that he believes are historically and rightfully belonging to Russia. It is, in his mind, an absolute truth.

        Moreover he spelled it all out detail in July 2021. No one took the mythology seriously at the time but he meant every word of it. Here, have at it:

        http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

        Elbows up!

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Aqua-Letifer

          My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

          So you think he wants nuclear WWIII?

          No, he wants to reclaim all lands and territories that he believes are historically and rightfully belonging to Russia. It is, in his mind, an absolute truth.

          Moreover he spelled it all out detail in July 2021. No one took the mythology seriously at the time but he meant every word of it. Here, have at it:

          http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on last edited by
          #1124

          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Aqua-Letifer

          My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

          So you think he wants nuclear WWIII?

          No, he wants to reclaim all lands and territories that he believes are historically and rightfully belonging to Russia. It is, in his mind, an absolute truth.

          Moreover he spelled it all out detail in July 2021. No one took the mythology seriously at the time but he meant every word of it. Here, have at it:

          http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

          It's amazing to read that and then look back at the news footage of the ramp-up to this war. Everyone and their mother was saying they weren't really going to invade.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Aqua-Letifer

            My bet is that he believes it though I am almost certain he does not in the least, care.

            So you think he wants nuclear WWIII?

            No, he wants to reclaim all lands and territories that he believes are historically and rightfully belonging to Russia. It is, in his mind, an absolute truth.

            Moreover he spelled it all out detail in July 2021. No one took the mythology seriously at the time but he meant every word of it. Here, have at it:

            http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

            It's amazing to read that and then look back at the news footage of the ramp-up to this war. Everyone and their mother was saying they weren't really going to invade.

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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #1125

            @Aqua-Letifer

            That’s right, virtually no one, not even the experts thought he would invade.

            On the other hand Putin’s thesis did spell out to those who read it that he held the West and open democracy in complete contempt. It also laid bare his paranoia wholly warped sense of history. At least that is how I read and understood it at the time. Up to that point I was not only open to some of Putin’s grievances with the West but also the Russian claim to Crimea. His written rant induced me to revisit his actions over the past twenty odd years and during the course of the ensuing months leading up to the invasion, I realized just how much I had been error.

            Putin represents a truly malevolent idea and force in the world, there is no dispute about that any longer.

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #1126

              Don’t know what it means or what gave rise to it but under the circumstances it can’t make things any worse than they are:

              https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/21/russian-defense-minister-us-counterpart-discuss-ukraine-in-rare-phone-call-a79162

              Elbows up!

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #1127

                Not sure what that could mean other than seeking US support for peace - peace meaning carving out parts of Ukraine.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  Not sure what that could mean other than seeking US support for peace - peace meaning carving out parts of Ukraine.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #1128

                  @Mik

                  My gut feeling is that it had more to do with the current NATO exercises in Europe, Iranian drone specialists in Crimea and recent incidents involving Russian and NATO aircraft in proximity to one another and designated airspace.

                  Carving up someone else’s country fall within the job descriptions of Heads of State and their respective Foreign Ministers and Sect’y s of State.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1129

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1130

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex-russian-diplomat-warns-putin-is-willing-to-sacrifice-20-million-soldiers-to-win-the-war-with-ukraine/ar-AA13hqQZ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=adc7719ab4644636aa6bc76182a42886#image=AA13i0ag|12

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1131

                        alt text

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1132

                          The war in winter...

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/winter-s-onset-will-change-the-war-in-ukraine/ar-AA13jFX9?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=64c07ecef87b42ebbd76eb143673081c

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • RenaudaR Offline
                            RenaudaR Offline
                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
                            #1133

                            If past actions are any indicator, the Kremlin is the process of blaming Ukraine and, by extension, NATO, for an operation Russia itself is planning to execute:

                            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/24/russia-claims-ukraine-in-final-stage-of-creating-dirty-bomb-a79176

                            Elbows up!

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                            • MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1134

                              Lots of LNG heading to Europe - if they can take it in.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/wave-of-lng-tankers-is-overwhelming-europe-in-energy-crisis-and-hitting-natural-gas-prices/ar-AA13kAS1?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e49cfeb0f6ae423290cc3a5f4eb61703

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • RenaudaR Offline
                                RenaudaR Offline
                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1135

                                The usual B. S. but also with some surprise commentary as to why "Russia's enemies" have yet to take Russia's dirty bomb allegations seriously.

                                At least one Russian pundit appears to be clueing in on reality.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • RenaudaR Renauda

                                  The usual B. S. but also with some surprise commentary as to why "Russia's enemies" have yet to take Russia's dirty bomb allegations seriously.

                                  At least one Russian pundit appears to be clueing in on reality.

                                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1136

                                  @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  At least one Russian pundit appears to be clueing in on reality.

                                  That guy's pretty brave. The clear embarrassment on all the other faces was pretty funny.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1137

                                    Out: Nazis.

                                    In: Satan.

                                    Ff7NSWOXEAIEups.png

                                    alt text

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1138

                                      In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        Out: Nazis.

                                        In: Satan.

                                        Ff7NSWOXEAIEups.png

                                        alt text

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1139

                                        @George-K

                                        FFS

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1140

                                          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

                                          That's SO 1980.

                                          image.png

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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