Speaking of cyber war
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I wonder to what extent our friends in government have prepared for a "cyber Pearl Harbor" as Leon Panetta has referred to it - no credit card processing, limited access to financial records.
People in rural/semi rural areas likely are in a better position to deal with the disruptions. Cities - not nearly as well as they rely on supply chains not being disrupted.
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I guess we’re about to find out how good all of those cyber security degrees from Phoenix University are…
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Not a bad idea to get a short stack of 20s out of the bank. It’s not inconceivable that Russia targets payment networks or banks.
Might fill your tank while you’re out.
@jon-nyc said in Speaking of cyber war:
Not a bad idea to get a short stack of 20s out of the bank. It’s not inconceivable that Russia targets payment networks or banks.
Might fill your tank while you’re out.
Everyday preparedness...He who panics first, panics best.
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Fill up the tank or have a short stack of $20’s? Which is it Jon?
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U.S. All Grades All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon) Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 1993 1.078 1.100 1.097 1.078 1.062 1.050 1.092 1.066 1.014 1994 0.998 1.009 1.008 1.027 1.047 1.078 1.106 1.155 1.144 1.114 1.119 1.129 1995 1.130 1.120 1.119 1.157 1.225 1.239 1.201 1.170 1.158 1.134 1.109 1.118 1996 1.137 1.136 1.183 1.275 1.324 1.300 1.272 1.251 1.247 1.249 1.278 1.282 1997 1.283 1.276 1.251 1.244 1.245 1.242 1.220 1.268 1.276 1.242 1.216 1.177 1998 1.132 1.096 1.064 1.077 1.105 1.103 1.094 1.065 1.049 1.059 1.036 0.987 1999 0.980 0.962 1.022 1.171 1.171 1.154 1.197 1.260 1.295 1.285 1.292 1.313 2000 1.329 1.415 1.556 1.506 1.526 1.666 1.591 1.506 1.588 1.571 1.557 1.483 2001 1.487 1.490 1.450 1.591 1.738 1.658 1.466 1.461 1.557 1.357 1.212 1.127 2002 1.148 1.155 1.289 1.439 1.434 1.424 1.438 1.438 1.441 1.486 1.461 1.429 2003 1.500 1.655 1.734 1.633 1.539 1.533 1.554 1.661 1.721 1.606 1.555 1.522 2004 1.614 1.690 1.778 1.839 2.023 2.013 1.954 1.920 1.912 2.042 2.023 1.887 2005 1.875 1.953 2.120 2.285 2.205 2.198 2.333 2.529 2.951 2.765 2.303 2.229 2006 2.360 2.326 2.468 2.787 2.953 2.930 3.025 2.999 2.606 2.293 2.275 2.359 2007 2.289 2.323 2.609 2.891 3.187 3.102 3.011 2.834 2.849 2.853 3.128 3.070 2008 3.095 3.078 3.293 3.507 3.815 4.105 4.114 3.833 3.756 3.112 2.208 1.745 2009 1.840 1.975 2.011 2.102 2.316 2.681 2.582 2.670 2.609 2.605 2.706 2.663 2010 2.769 2.699 2.824 2.900 2.890 2.785 2.782 2.783 2.757 2.853 2.913 3.048 2011 3.148 3.264 3.615 3.852 3.960 3.735 3.705 3.696 3.667 3.506 3.443 3.326 2012 3.440 3.640 3.907 3.958 3.791 3.596 3.498 3.780 3.910 3.812 3.521 3.381 2013 3.391 3.736 3.779 3.638 3.675 3.689 3.661 3.645 3.604 3.420 3.322 3.357 2014 3.392 3.434 3.606 3.735 3.750 3.766 3.688 3.565 3.484 3.255 2.997 2.632 2015 2.208 2.301 2.546 2.555 2.802 2.885 2.880 2.726 2.462 2.387 2.260 2.144 2016 2.057 1.872 2.071 2.216 2.371 2.467 2.345 2.284 2.327 2.359 2.295 2.366 2017 2.458 2.416 2.437 2.528 2.503 2.460 2.414 2.494 2.761 2.621 2.678 2.594 2018 2.671 2.705 2.709 2.873 2.987 2.970 2.928 2.914 2.915 2.943 2.736 2.457 2019 2.338 2.393 2.594 2.881 2.946 2.804 2.823 2.707 2.681 2.724 2.693 2.645 2020 2.636 2.533 2.329 1.938 1.961 2.170 2.272 2.272 2.274 2.248 2.200 2.284 2021 2.420 2.587 2.898 2.948 3.076 3.157 3.231 3.255 3.272 3.384 3.491 3.406 2022 3.413 3.611 -
Going out to fill our tank (yes, Jolly, we still gots a car) and to pull money out of the bank.
My very first war-time act since I sent my uncle Kool-Aid packets while he was in Iraq. And honestly this one feels more involved.
I'd like to say I'm being silly about that but I really, really doubt it.
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Going out to fill our tank (yes, Jolly, we still gots a car) and to pull money out of the bank.
My very first war-time act since I sent my uncle Kool-Aid packets while he was in Iraq. And honestly this one feels more involved.
I'd like to say I'm being silly about that but I really, really doubt it.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Speaking of cyber war:
Going out to fill our tank (yes, Jolly, we still gots a car) and to pull money out of the bank.
My very first war-time act since I sent my uncle Kool-Aid packets while he was in Iraq. And honestly this one feels more involved.
I'd like to say I'm being silly about that but I really, really doubt it.
Hell, I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Speaking of cyber war:
Going out to fill our tank (yes, Jolly, we still gots a car) and to pull money out of the bank.
My very first war-time act since I sent my uncle Kool-Aid packets while he was in Iraq. And honestly this one feels more involved.
I'd like to say I'm being silly about that but I really, really doubt it.
Hell, I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…
@LuFins-Dad said in Speaking of cyber war:
I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…
So, what would you put into a bug out bag?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Speaking of cyber war:
I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…
So, what would you put into a bug out bag?
@George-K said in Speaking of cyber war:
@LuFins-Dad said in Speaking of cyber war:
I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…
So, what would you put into a bug out bag?
Entirely depends on how fucked you think you're gonna be, and for how long.
For me, I take the middle road:
4-5 days' nonperishable food
Vitamins
First aid and meds
Water filtration systems (I like charcoal + boiling, but I'll keep some tablets handy)
Knife and hatchet
Lots of waterproof shit: trash bags, shopping bags, ziploc bags
Clothes
Dual fuel stove, ceramic mugs, cutlery
Water bladder
Gun
Fire: bic, sparker, dry shit to get it started
Hat
Parachute cord
Hammocks with rain flyMy plan is to either walk out, or get help. I don't go in for single-handedly rebuilding civilization.
Please love yourself.
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@jon-nyc said in Speaking of cyber war:
Don’t you need to add diapers?
That's in the kiddo's bag, all of which are nice-to-haves.
Brown asses > dehydration.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Speaking of cyber war:
I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…
So, what would you put into a bug out bag?
@George-K said in Speaking of cyber war:
@LuFins-Dad said in Speaking of cyber war:
I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…
So, what would you put into a bug out bag?
I’ve got a couple of old fashioned hiker frame backpacks, 4 4-season sleeping bags, 2 Hennessey Camping Hammocks, and 2 3-Season tents. I would probably load 2 bags in each car, put the camping hammocks in my car and the tent in Karla’s. One medical bag in each, a box of one strike fire starters and a butane lighter in each, one set of camping cookware in each (I’ll put the good set in Karla’s and take the aluminum myself) a couple rolls of fishing line, hooks, and artificial bait. The one thing I definitely need to add is at least one water filter, probably two… A jar of bouillon cubes in each bag and I should probably buy a couple of big boxes of ramen. I already have a multi tool and a mini tool kit in each car as well as flashlights.
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Bug out bag?
Unless you've got a definitive place to go, where you'll have food, water, help and a defensible position, you're a lot safer usually sheltering in place.
The biggest problem for many of us older folks will be medications.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@George-K said in Speaking of cyber war:
@LuFins-Dad said in Speaking of cyber war:
I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…
So, what would you put into a bug out bag?
Entirely depends on how fucked you think you're gonna be, and for how long.
For me, I take the middle road:
4-5 days' nonperishable food
Vitamins
First aid and meds
Water filtration systems (I like charcoal + boiling, but I'll keep some tablets handy)
Knife and hatchet
Lots of waterproof shit: trash bags, shopping bags, ziploc bags
Clothes
Dual fuel stove, ceramic mugs, cutlery
Water bladder
Gun
Fire: bic, sparker, dry shit to get it started
Hat
Parachute cord
Hammocks with rain flyMy plan is to either walk out, or get help. I don't go in for single-handedly rebuilding civilization.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Speaking of cyber war:
For me, I take the middle road:
4-5 days' nonperishable food
Vitamins
First aid and meds
Water filtration systems (I like charcoal + boiling, but I'll keep some tablets handy)
Knife and hatchet
Lots of waterproof shit: trash bags, shopping bags, ziploc bags
Clothes
Dual fuel stove, ceramic mugs, cutlery
Water bladder
Gun
Fire: bic, sparker, dry shit to get it started
Hat
Parachute cord
Hammocks with rain flyAs long as you have the gun, you can get the rest of it.
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Here's prep advice for the unprepared.
@kluurs said in Speaking of cyber war:
Here's prep advice for the unprepared.
If you're at this point, you're screwed.
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Bug out bag?
Unless you've got a definitive place to go, where you'll have food, water, help and a defensible position, you're a lot safer usually sheltering in place.
The biggest problem for many of us older folks will be medications.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Speaking of cyber war:
For me, I take the middle road:
4-5 days' nonperishable food
Vitamins
First aid and meds
Water filtration systems (I like charcoal + boiling, but I'll keep some tablets handy)
Knife and hatchet
Lots of waterproof shit: trash bags, shopping bags, ziploc bags
Clothes
Dual fuel stove, ceramic mugs, cutlery
Water bladder
Gun
Fire: bic, sparker, dry shit to get it started
Hat
Parachute cord
Hammocks with rain flyAs long as you have the gun, you can get the rest of it.
@Copper said in Speaking of cyber war:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Speaking of cyber war:
For me, I take the middle road:
4-5 days' nonperishable food
Vitamins
First aid and meds
Water filtration systems (I like charcoal + boiling, but I'll keep some tablets handy)
Knife and hatchet
Lots of waterproof shit: trash bags, shopping bags, ziploc bags
Clothes
Dual fuel stove, ceramic mugs, cutlery
Water bladder
Gun
Fire: bic, sparker, dry shit to get it started
Hat
Parachute cord
Hammocks with rain flyAs long as you have the gun, you can get the rest of it.
Or maybe keep it.
It depends on how bad it gets and for how long.
EOTWAWKI literature can be a good read. A very popular book in its day:
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My plan is to wait until most of the nutters with guns wipe each other out, then I'll walk in and disarm them with my cheery British accent and self-deprecating humour, and snaffle all the goodies while they're busy polishing their weapons and arguing about who's in charge.
Pretty much what the Brits have always done, IOW.
