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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    I guess we’re about to find out how good all of those cyber security degrees from Phoenix University are…

    The Brad

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Not a bad idea to get a short stack of 20s out of the bank. It’s not inconceivable that Russia targets payment networks or banks.

      Might fill your tank while you’re out.

      JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #7

      @jon-nyc said in Speaking of cyber war:

      Not a bad idea to get a short stack of 20s out of the bank. It’s not inconceivable that Russia targets payment networks or banks.

      Might fill your tank while you’re out.

      Everyday preparedness...He who panics first, panics best.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • CopperC Offline
        CopperC Offline
        Copper
        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        I guess I better get my taxes paid before the net goes down.

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
          LuFins DadL Offline
          LuFins Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #9

          Fill up the tank or have a short stack of $20’s? Which is it Jon?

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          The Brad

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          • CopperC Offline
            CopperC Offline
            Copper
            wrote on last edited by Copper
            #10

            https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=m

            U.S. All Grades All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon)
            Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
              1993				1.078	1.100	1.097	1.078	1.062	1.050	1.092	1.066	1.014
              1994	0.998	1.009	1.008	1.027	1.047	1.078	1.106	1.155	1.144	1.114	1.119	1.129
              1995	1.130	1.120	1.119	1.157	1.225	1.239	1.201	1.170	1.158	1.134	1.109	1.118
              1996	1.137	1.136	1.183	1.275	1.324	1.300	1.272	1.251	1.247	1.249	1.278	1.282
              1997	1.283	1.276	1.251	1.244	1.245	1.242	1.220	1.268	1.276	1.242	1.216	1.177
              1998	1.132	1.096	1.064	1.077	1.105	1.103	1.094	1.065	1.049	1.059	1.036	0.987
              1999	0.980	0.962	1.022	1.171	1.171	1.154	1.197	1.260	1.295	1.285	1.292	1.313
              2000	1.329	1.415	1.556	1.506	1.526	1.666	1.591	1.506	1.588	1.571	1.557	1.483
              2001	1.487	1.490	1.450	1.591	1.738	1.658	1.466	1.461	1.557	1.357	1.212	1.127
              2002	1.148	1.155	1.289	1.439	1.434	1.424	1.438	1.438	1.441	1.486	1.461	1.429
              2003	1.500	1.655	1.734	1.633	1.539	1.533	1.554	1.661	1.721	1.606	1.555	1.522
              2004	1.614	1.690	1.778	1.839	2.023	2.013	1.954	1.920	1.912	2.042	2.023	1.887
              2005	1.875	1.953	2.120	2.285	2.205	2.198	2.333	2.529	2.951	2.765	2.303	2.229
              2006	2.360	2.326	2.468	2.787	2.953	2.930	3.025	2.999	2.606	2.293	2.275	2.359
              2007	2.289	2.323	2.609	2.891	3.187	3.102	3.011	2.834	2.849	2.853	3.128	3.070
              2008	3.095	3.078	3.293	3.507	3.815	4.105	4.114	3.833	3.756	3.112	2.208	1.745
              2009	1.840	1.975	2.011	2.102	2.316	2.681	2.582	2.670	2.609	2.605	2.706	2.663
              2010	2.769	2.699	2.824	2.900	2.890	2.785	2.782	2.783	2.757	2.853	2.913	3.048
              2011	3.148	3.264	3.615	3.852	3.960	3.735	3.705	3.696	3.667	3.506	3.443	3.326
              2012	3.440	3.640	3.907	3.958	3.791	3.596	3.498	3.780	3.910	3.812	3.521	3.381
              2013	3.391	3.736	3.779	3.638	3.675	3.689	3.661	3.645	3.604	3.420	3.322	3.357
              2014	3.392	3.434	3.606	3.735	3.750	3.766	3.688	3.565	3.484	3.255	2.997	2.632
              2015	2.208	2.301	2.546	2.555	2.802	2.885	2.880	2.726	2.462	2.387	2.260	2.144
              2016	2.057	1.872	2.071	2.216	2.371	2.467	2.345	2.284	2.327	2.359	2.295	2.366
              2017	2.458	2.416	2.437	2.528	2.503	2.460	2.414	2.494	2.761	2.621	2.678	2.594
              2018	2.671	2.705	2.709	2.873	2.987	2.970	2.928	2.914	2.915	2.943	2.736	2.457
              2019	2.338	2.393	2.594	2.881	2.946	2.804	2.823	2.707	2.681	2.724	2.693	2.645
              2020	2.636	2.533	2.329	1.938	1.961	2.170	2.272	2.272	2.274	2.248	2.200	2.284
              2021	2.420	2.587	2.898	2.948	3.076	3.157	3.231	3.255	3.272	3.384	3.491	3.406
              2022	3.413	3.611
            
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            • Aqua LetiferA Offline
              Aqua LetiferA Offline
              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              Going out to fill our tank (yes, Jolly, we still gots a car) and to pull money out of the bank.

              My very first war-time act since I sent my uncle Kool-Aid packets while he was in Iraq. And honestly this one feels more involved.

              I'd like to say I'm being silly about that but I really, really doubt it.

              Please love yourself.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                Going out to fill our tank (yes, Jolly, we still gots a car) and to pull money out of the bank.

                My very first war-time act since I sent my uncle Kool-Aid packets while he was in Iraq. And honestly this one feels more involved.

                I'd like to say I'm being silly about that but I really, really doubt it.

                LuFins DadL Offline
                LuFins DadL Offline
                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Speaking of cyber war:

                Going out to fill our tank (yes, Jolly, we still gots a car) and to pull money out of the bank.

                My very first war-time act since I sent my uncle Kool-Aid packets while he was in Iraq. And honestly this one feels more involved.

                I'd like to say I'm being silly about that but I really, really doubt it.

                Hell, I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Speaking of cyber war:

                  Going out to fill our tank (yes, Jolly, we still gots a car) and to pull money out of the bank.

                  My very first war-time act since I sent my uncle Kool-Aid packets while he was in Iraq. And honestly this one feels more involved.

                  I'd like to say I'm being silly about that but I really, really doubt it.

                  Hell, I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…

                  George KG Offline
                  George KG Offline
                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Speaking of cyber war:

                  I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…

                  So, what would you put into a bug out bag?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Speaking of cyber war:

                    I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…

                    So, what would you put into a bug out bag?

                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                    #14

                    @George-K said in Speaking of cyber war:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Speaking of cyber war:

                    I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…

                    So, what would you put into a bug out bag?

                    Entirely depends on how fucked you think you're gonna be, and for how long.

                    For me, I take the middle road:

                    4-5 days' nonperishable food
                    Vitamins
                    First aid and meds
                    Water filtration systems (I like charcoal + boiling, but I'll keep some tablets handy)
                    Knife and hatchet
                    Lots of waterproof shit: trash bags, shopping bags, ziploc bags
                    Clothes
                    Dual fuel stove, ceramic mugs, cutlery
                    Water bladder
                    Gun
                    Fire: bic, sparker, dry shit to get it started
                    Hat
                    Parachute cord
                    Hammocks with rain fly

                    My plan is to either walk out, or get help. I don't go in for single-handedly rebuilding civilization.

                    1F285CD5-A626-4116-B329-0AB6B7AD01E8.jpeg

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nyc
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                      #15

                      Don’t you need to add diapers?

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Don’t you need to add diapers?

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #16

                        @jon-nyc said in Speaking of cyber war:

                        Don’t you need to add diapers?

                        That's in the kiddo's bag, all of which are nice-to-haves.

                        Brown asses > dehydration.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Speaking of cyber war:

                          I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…

                          So, what would you put into a bug out bag?

                          LuFins DadL Offline
                          LuFins DadL Offline
                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          @George-K said in Speaking of cyber war:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Speaking of cyber war:

                          I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…

                          So, what would you put into a bug out bag?

                          I’ve got a couple of old fashioned hiker frame backpacks, 4 4-season sleeping bags, 2 Hennessey Camping Hammocks, and 2 3-Season tents. I would probably load 2 bags in each car, put the camping hammocks in my car and the tent in Karla’s. One medical bag in each, a box of one strike fire starters and a butane lighter in each, one set of camping cookware in each (I’ll put the good set in Karla’s and take the aluminum myself) a couple rolls of fishing line, hooks, and artificial bait. The one thing I definitely need to add is at least one water filter, probably two… A jar of bouillon cubes in each bag and I should probably buy a couple of big boxes of ramen. I already have a multi tool and a mini tool kit in each car as well as flashlights.

                          The Brad

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                          • JollyJ Offline
                            JollyJ Offline
                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            Bug out bag?

                            Unless you've got a definitive place to go, where you'll have food, water, help and a defensible position, you're a lot safer usually sheltering in place.

                            The biggest problem for many of us older folks will be medications.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • kluursK Online
                              kluursK Online
                              kluurs
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              Here's prep advice for the unprepared.

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @George-K said in Speaking of cyber war:

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Speaking of cyber war:

                                I’m starting to think about preloading the cars with bug out bags…

                                So, what would you put into a bug out bag?

                                Entirely depends on how fucked you think you're gonna be, and for how long.

                                For me, I take the middle road:

                                4-5 days' nonperishable food
                                Vitamins
                                First aid and meds
                                Water filtration systems (I like charcoal + boiling, but I'll keep some tablets handy)
                                Knife and hatchet
                                Lots of waterproof shit: trash bags, shopping bags, ziploc bags
                                Clothes
                                Dual fuel stove, ceramic mugs, cutlery
                                Water bladder
                                Gun
                                Fire: bic, sparker, dry shit to get it started
                                Hat
                                Parachute cord
                                Hammocks with rain fly

                                My plan is to either walk out, or get help. I don't go in for single-handedly rebuilding civilization.

                                1F285CD5-A626-4116-B329-0AB6B7AD01E8.jpeg

                                CopperC Offline
                                CopperC Offline
                                Copper
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Speaking of cyber war:

                                For me, I take the middle road:

                                4-5 days' nonperishable food
                                Vitamins
                                First aid and meds
                                Water filtration systems (I like charcoal + boiling, but I'll keep some tablets handy)
                                Knife and hatchet
                                Lots of waterproof shit: trash bags, shopping bags, ziploc bags
                                Clothes
                                Dual fuel stove, ceramic mugs, cutlery
                                Water bladder
                                Gun
                                Fire: bic, sparker, dry shit to get it started
                                Hat
                                Parachute cord
                                Hammocks with rain fly

                                As long as you have the gun, you can get the rest of it.

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                                • kluursK kluurs

                                  Here's prep advice for the unprepared.

                                  JollyJ Offline
                                  JollyJ Offline
                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #21

                                  @kluurs said in Speaking of cyber war:

                                  Here's prep advice for the unprepared.

                                  If you're at this point, you're screwed.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    Bug out bag?

                                    Unless you've got a definitive place to go, where you'll have food, water, help and a defensible position, you're a lot safer usually sheltering in place.

                                    The biggest problem for many of us older folks will be medications.

                                    89th8 Offline
                                    89th8 Offline
                                    89th
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #22

                                    @Jolly said in Speaking of cyber war:

                                    Unless you've got a definitive place to go, where you'll have food, water, help and a defensible position, you're a lot safer usually sheltering in place.

                                    That is one reason I moved to Minnesoooooooota.

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                                    • CopperC Copper

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Speaking of cyber war:

                                      For me, I take the middle road:

                                      4-5 days' nonperishable food
                                      Vitamins
                                      First aid and meds
                                      Water filtration systems (I like charcoal + boiling, but I'll keep some tablets handy)
                                      Knife and hatchet
                                      Lots of waterproof shit: trash bags, shopping bags, ziploc bags
                                      Clothes
                                      Dual fuel stove, ceramic mugs, cutlery
                                      Water bladder
                                      Gun
                                      Fire: bic, sparker, dry shit to get it started
                                      Hat
                                      Parachute cord
                                      Hammocks with rain fly

                                      As long as you have the gun, you can get the rest of it.

                                      JollyJ Offline
                                      JollyJ Offline
                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #23

                                      @Copper said in Speaking of cyber war:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Speaking of cyber war:

                                      For me, I take the middle road:

                                      4-5 days' nonperishable food
                                      Vitamins
                                      First aid and meds
                                      Water filtration systems (I like charcoal + boiling, but I'll keep some tablets handy)
                                      Knife and hatchet
                                      Lots of waterproof shit: trash bags, shopping bags, ziploc bags
                                      Clothes
                                      Dual fuel stove, ceramic mugs, cutlery
                                      Water bladder
                                      Gun
                                      Fire: bic, sparker, dry shit to get it started
                                      Hat
                                      Parachute cord
                                      Hammocks with rain fly

                                      As long as you have the gun, you can get the rest of it.

                                      Or maybe keep it.

                                      It depends on how bad it gets and for how long.

                                      EOTWAWKI literature can be a good read. A very popular book in its day:

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                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Online
                                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #24

                                        My plan is to wait until most of the nutters with guns wipe each other out, then I'll walk in and disarm them with my cheery British accent and self-deprecating humour, and snaffle all the goodies while they're busy polishing their weapons and arguing about who's in charge.

                                        Pretty much what the Brits have always done, IOW.

                                        I was only joking

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