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    Mik
    wrote on 31 May 2020, 14:08 last edited by Mik
    #6

    The thread title was about COVID spread. That may be about the regulations, but to do so would only inflame the situation and further crowd the petri dishes of the jails.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • L Loki
      31 May 2020, 12:54

      We were pilloried with stories about gatherings without masks and just look at what is happening in all the cities around the country over the last 48 hours.

      And nary of a peep. Did the cities move from the red zone to the green zone? What are the new social distancing guidelines, is this even a thing anymore?

      I feel gaslight.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 31 May 2020, 14:14 last edited by
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      @Loki said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

      We were pilloried with stories about gatherings without masks and just look at what is happening in all the cities around the country over the last 48 hours.

      And nary of a peep. Did the cities move from the red zone to the green zone? What are the new social distancing guidelines, is this even a thing anymore?

      I feel gaslight.

      There's a lag from about 10-15 days between when someone gets infected, and when they seek hospitalization. If you feel gaslit it's because you haven't looked into this properly and you seek conclusions that fit your worldview about the economy.

      Please love yourself.

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        Horace
        wrote on 31 May 2020, 14:37 last edited by Horace
        #8

        I don't think we have to wait for data to know whether these riots are a Covid spreading no-no.

        Education is extremely important.

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          brenda
          wrote on 31 May 2020, 14:50 last edited by
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          Must mean the masks are effective!

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          • M Mik
            31 May 2020, 12:58

            It's too early. The riots have been going on less than a week.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:23 last edited by
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            @Mik said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

            It's too early. The riots have been going on less than a week.

            +1.

            I'm tracing weekly growth rates of the top 20 states.

            Minnesoooota already leads the pack. We'll see what happens in 2 weeks time.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • J jon-nyc
              31 May 2020, 15:23

              @Mik said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

              It's too early. The riots have been going on less than a week.

              +1.

              I'm tracing weekly growth rates of the top 20 states.

              Minnesoooota already leads the pack. We'll see what happens in 2 weeks time.

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              brenda
              wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:26 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc

              Nice number of o's there, jon. 🙂

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:30 last edited by
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                My guess is the impact will be material. Though it helps that it's all occurring outside.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • B brenda
                  31 May 2020, 14:50

                  Must mean the masks are effective!

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                  brenda
                  wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:47 last edited by
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                  @brenda said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                  Must mean the masks are effective!

                  BTW, I agree it's way too soon to see cases pop up from the riots. With these being outdoor events and many wearing masks of various types, perhaps not much of a spike in new Covid cases will occur. Of course, the rioters may become asymptomatic carriers, and spread it to their family and friends, who can then spread it some more.

                  At least the rioters who came here from other states can take it back home again. A gift that keeps on giving!

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:48 last edited by
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                    My slant was really about main stream media ridicule of those who don’t abide by the lockdown and states where the lockdown is easing and what that means for spread and how not wearing masks is causing round 2. So here we are with super spreader events all across the country and the media is struggling to tell us a story of why these protests are important.

                    I mean WTF.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:52 last edited by
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                      Deviating from this particular narrative is a huge, huge no-no. You have to believe in ACAB or you hate minorities. Sadly that's where we're at right now.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:55 last edited by Horace
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                        All of America's dumbest cultural ideas are around race. They exist because everybody is terrified of being seen thinking about anything beyond the sharp good vs evil outlines the narrative has painted.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:09 last edited by
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                          Well, @Loki now we have the Associated Press writing about
                          “Massive U.S. Protests Raise Fears Of New Coronavirus Outbreaks”,
                          and it’s carried by the Huffington Post:

                          https://www.huffpost.com/entry/protests-raise-fears-coronavirus-outbreaks_n_5ed3966bc5b6535fe4b8b3ca

                          “Health experts fear that silent carriers of the virus who have no symptoms could unwittingly infect others at protests where people are packed cheek to jowl, many without masks.”

                          Now that we’ve got this one covered, maybe you can go find another topic on which to blame the press of bias. 😉

                          Oh, shame on Trump‘s CDC for not publishing any public health guidelines on how to safely protest/riot during the COVID-19 pandemic. 👿

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                          • A Aqua Letifer
                            31 May 2020, 15:52

                            Deviating from this particular narrative is a huge, huge no-no. You have to believe in ACAB or you hate minorities. Sadly that's where we're at right now.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:14 last edited by
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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                            Deviating from this particular narrative is a huge, huge no-no. You have to believe in ACAB or you hate minorities. Sadly that's where we're at right now.

                            That’s the worst part. No true and effective change can be effected without addressing the root of the problem. Unfortunately, the racist theme WILL carry the day, and all we can do is watch in astonishment and dismay as they proceed to make things worse.

                            The Brad

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                            • A Axtremus
                              1 Jun 2020, 01:09

                              Well, @Loki now we have the Associated Press writing about
                              “Massive U.S. Protests Raise Fears Of New Coronavirus Outbreaks”,
                              and it’s carried by the Huffington Post:

                              https://www.huffpost.com/entry/protests-raise-fears-coronavirus-outbreaks_n_5ed3966bc5b6535fe4b8b3ca

                              “Health experts fear that silent carriers of the virus who have no symptoms could unwittingly infect others at protests where people are packed cheek to jowl, many without masks.”

                              Now that we’ve got this one covered, maybe you can go find another topic on which to blame the press of bias. 😉

                              Oh, shame on Trump‘s CDC for not publishing any public health guidelines on how to safely protest/riot during the COVID-19 pandemic. 👿

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                              Loki
                              wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:40 last edited by
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                              @Axtremus said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                              Well, @Loki now we have the Associated Press writing about
                              “Massive U.S. Protests Raise Fears Of New Coronavirus Outbreaks”,
                              and it’s carried by the Huffington Post:

                              https://www.huffpost.com/entry/protests-raise-fears-coronavirus-outbreaks_n_5ed3966bc5b6535fe4b8b3ca

                              “Health experts fear that silent carriers of the virus who have no symptoms could unwittingly infect others at protests where people are packed cheek to jowl, many without masks.”

                              Now that we’ve got this one covered, maybe you can go find another topic on which to blame the press of bias. 😉

                              Oh, shame on Trump‘s CDC for not publishing any public health guidelines on how to safely protest/riot during the COVID-19 pandemic. 👿

                              Yeah. You found an article. I actually don’t believe you believe it proved your case so why would I?

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:41 last edited by
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                                Dude it's going to take about 2 weeks to see, that's the lag time.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • L Loki
                                  1 Jun 2020, 01:40

                                  @Axtremus said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                  Well, @Loki now we have the Associated Press writing about
                                  “Massive U.S. Protests Raise Fears Of New Coronavirus Outbreaks”,
                                  and it’s carried by the Huffington Post:

                                  https://www.huffpost.com/entry/protests-raise-fears-coronavirus-outbreaks_n_5ed3966bc5b6535fe4b8b3ca

                                  “Health experts fear that silent carriers of the virus who have no symptoms could unwittingly infect others at protests where people are packed cheek to jowl, many without masks.”

                                  Now that we’ve got this one covered, maybe you can go find another topic on which to blame the press of bias. 😉

                                  Oh, shame on Trump‘s CDC for not publishing any public health guidelines on how to safely protest/riot during the COVID-19 pandemic. 👿

                                  Yeah. You found an article. I actually don’t believe you believe it proved your case so why would I?

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:45 last edited by
                                  #21

                                  @Loki said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                  @Axtremus said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                  Well, @Loki now we have the Associated Press writing about
                                  “Massive U.S. Protests Raise Fears Of New Coronavirus Outbreaks”,
                                  and it’s carried by the Huffington Post:

                                  https://www.huffpost.com/entry/protests-raise-fears-coronavirus-outbreaks_n_5ed3966bc5b6535fe4b8b3ca

                                  “Health experts fear that silent carriers of the virus who have no symptoms could unwittingly infect others at protests where people are packed cheek to jowl, many without masks.”

                                  Now that we’ve got this one covered, maybe you can go find another topic on which to blame the press of bias. 😉

                                  Oh, shame on Trump‘s CDC for not publishing any public health guidelines on how to safely protest/riot during the COVID-19 pandemic. 👿

                                  Yeah. You found an article. I actually don’t believe you believe it proved your case so why would I?

                                  Well, @Loki , you're in luck, there are more articles:

                                  Rolling Stone: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/george-floyd-protest-covid-19-pandemic-safety-1008067/

                                  Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/31/coronavirus-live-updates-us/

                                  Philadelphia Inquirer: https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-covid19-protest-superspreader-outdoor-transmission-20200531.html

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:46 last edited by
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                                    What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • H Horace
                                      1 Jun 2020, 01:46

                                      What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:48 last edited by
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                                      @Horace said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                      What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

                                      That's when you dig into comorbidities.
                                      Am I right, @Loki ? 😉

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                                      • H Horace
                                        1 Jun 2020, 01:46

                                        What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:48 last edited by
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                                        @Horace said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                        What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

                                        Nothing. If no spike, it'll mean mostly that more protesters than not were wearing masks.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • A Aqua Letifer
                                          1 Jun 2020, 01:48

                                          @Horace said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                          What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

                                          Nothing. If no spike, it'll mean mostly that more protesters than not were wearing masks.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:51 last edited by
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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                          @Horace said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                          What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

                                          Nothing. If no spike, it'll mean mostly that more protesters than not were wearing masks.

                                          And Seasonality, and being outdoors, and...Everybody will be able to see what they want to see. No worries.

                                          The Brad

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