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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @Mik said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

    It's too early. The riots have been going on less than a week.

    +1.

    I'm tracing weekly growth rates of the top 20 states.

    Minnesoooota already leads the pack. We'll see what happens in 2 weeks time.

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    @jon-nyc

    Nice number of o's there, jon. šŸ™‚

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      My guess is the impact will be material. Though it helps that it's all occurring outside.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • brendaB brenda

        Must mean the masks are effective!

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        @brenda said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

        Must mean the masks are effective!

        BTW, I agree it's way too soon to see cases pop up from the riots. With these being outdoor events and many wearing masks of various types, perhaps not much of a spike in new Covid cases will occur. Of course, the rioters may become asymptomatic carriers, and spread it to their family and friends, who can then spread it some more.

        At least the rioters who came here from other states can take it back home again. A gift that keeps on giving!

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          Loki
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          My slant was really about main stream media ridicule of those who don’t abide by the lockdown and states where the lockdown is easing and what that means for spread and how not wearing masks is causing round 2. So here we are with super spreader events all across the country and the media is struggling to tell us a story of why these protests are important.

          I mean WTF.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            #15

            Deviating from this particular narrative is a huge, huge no-no. You have to believe in ACAB or you hate minorities. Sadly that's where we're at right now.

            Please love yourself.

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              #16

              All of America's dumbest cultural ideas are around race. They exist because everybody is terrified of being seen thinking about anything beyond the sharp good vs evil outlines the narrative has painted.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • AxtremusA Offline
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                Well, @Loki now we have the Associated Press writing about
                ā€œMassive U.S. Protests Raise Fears Of New Coronavirus Outbreaksā€,
                and it’s carried by the Huffington Post:

                https://www.huffpost.com/entry/protests-raise-fears-coronavirus-outbreaks_n_5ed3966bc5b6535fe4b8b3ca

                ā€œHealth experts fear that silent carriers of the virus who have no symptoms could unwittingly infect others at protests where people are packed cheek to jowl, many without masks.ā€

                Now that we’ve got this one covered, maybe you can go find another topic on which to blame the press of bias. šŸ˜‰

                Oh, shame on Trumpā€˜s CDC for not publishing any public health guidelines on how to safely protest/riot during the COVID-19 pandemic. šŸ‘æ

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  Deviating from this particular narrative is a huge, huge no-no. You have to believe in ACAB or you hate minorities. Sadly that's where we're at right now.

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                  #18

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                  Deviating from this particular narrative is a huge, huge no-no. You have to believe in ACAB or you hate minorities. Sadly that's where we're at right now.

                  That’s the worst part. No true and effective change can be effected without addressing the root of the problem. Unfortunately, the racist theme WILL carry the day, and all we can do is watch in astonishment and dismay as they proceed to make things worse.

                  The Brad

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    Well, @Loki now we have the Associated Press writing about
                    ā€œMassive U.S. Protests Raise Fears Of New Coronavirus Outbreaksā€,
                    and it’s carried by the Huffington Post:

                    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/protests-raise-fears-coronavirus-outbreaks_n_5ed3966bc5b6535fe4b8b3ca

                    ā€œHealth experts fear that silent carriers of the virus who have no symptoms could unwittingly infect others at protests where people are packed cheek to jowl, many without masks.ā€

                    Now that we’ve got this one covered, maybe you can go find another topic on which to blame the press of bias. šŸ˜‰

                    Oh, shame on Trumpā€˜s CDC for not publishing any public health guidelines on how to safely protest/riot during the COVID-19 pandemic. šŸ‘æ

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                    #19

                    @Axtremus said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                    Well, @Loki now we have the Associated Press writing about
                    ā€œMassive U.S. Protests Raise Fears Of New Coronavirus Outbreaksā€,
                    and it’s carried by the Huffington Post:

                    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/protests-raise-fears-coronavirus-outbreaks_n_5ed3966bc5b6535fe4b8b3ca

                    ā€œHealth experts fear that silent carriers of the virus who have no symptoms could unwittingly infect others at protests where people are packed cheek to jowl, many without masks.ā€

                    Now that we’ve got this one covered, maybe you can go find another topic on which to blame the press of bias. šŸ˜‰

                    Oh, shame on Trumpā€˜s CDC for not publishing any public health guidelines on how to safely protest/riot during the COVID-19 pandemic. šŸ‘æ

                    Yeah. You found an article. I actually don’t believe you believe it proved your case so why would I?

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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      #20

                      Dude it's going to take about 2 weeks to see, that's the lag time.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • L Loki

                        @Axtremus said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                        Well, @Loki now we have the Associated Press writing about
                        ā€œMassive U.S. Protests Raise Fears Of New Coronavirus Outbreaksā€,
                        and it’s carried by the Huffington Post:

                        https://www.huffpost.com/entry/protests-raise-fears-coronavirus-outbreaks_n_5ed3966bc5b6535fe4b8b3ca

                        ā€œHealth experts fear that silent carriers of the virus who have no symptoms could unwittingly infect others at protests where people are packed cheek to jowl, many without masks.ā€

                        Now that we’ve got this one covered, maybe you can go find another topic on which to blame the press of bias. šŸ˜‰

                        Oh, shame on Trumpā€˜s CDC for not publishing any public health guidelines on how to safely protest/riot during the COVID-19 pandemic. šŸ‘æ

                        Yeah. You found an article. I actually don’t believe you believe it proved your case so why would I?

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                        @Loki said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                        @Axtremus said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                        Well, @Loki now we have the Associated Press writing about
                        ā€œMassive U.S. Protests Raise Fears Of New Coronavirus Outbreaksā€,
                        and it’s carried by the Huffington Post:

                        https://www.huffpost.com/entry/protests-raise-fears-coronavirus-outbreaks_n_5ed3966bc5b6535fe4b8b3ca

                        ā€œHealth experts fear that silent carriers of the virus who have no symptoms could unwittingly infect others at protests where people are packed cheek to jowl, many without masks.ā€

                        Now that we’ve got this one covered, maybe you can go find another topic on which to blame the press of bias. šŸ˜‰

                        Oh, shame on Trumpā€˜s CDC for not publishing any public health guidelines on how to safely protest/riot during the COVID-19 pandemic. šŸ‘æ

                        Yeah. You found an article. I actually don’t believe you believe it proved your case so why would I?

                        Well, @Loki , you're in luck, there are more articles:

                        Rolling Stone: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/george-floyd-protest-covid-19-pandemic-safety-1008067/

                        Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/31/coronavirus-live-updates-us/

                        Philadelphia Inquirer: https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-covid19-protest-superspreader-outdoor-transmission-20200531.html

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                          Horace
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                          What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

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                            @Horace said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                            What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

                            That's when you dig into comorbidities.
                            Am I right, @Loki ? šŸ˜‰

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

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                              @Horace said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                              What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

                              Nothing. If no spike, it'll mean mostly that more protesters than not were wearing masks.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @Horace said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

                                Nothing. If no spike, it'll mean mostly that more protesters than not were wearing masks.

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                @Horace said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

                                Nothing. If no spike, it'll mean mostly that more protesters than not were wearing masks.

                                And Seasonality, and being outdoors, and...Everybody will be able to see what they want to see. No worries.

                                The Brad

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @Horace said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                  What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

                                  That's when you dig into comorbidities.
                                  Am I right, @Loki ? šŸ˜‰

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                                  @Axtremus said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                  @Horace said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                  What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

                                  That's when you dig into comorbidities.
                                  Am I right, @Loki ? šŸ˜‰

                                  Very few protesters are 80+ years of age. However if such a protester existed, I would be thrilled to see a long form CNN story written about their inspiring story of courage. Maybe RBG can make an appearance.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    @Axtremus said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                    @Horace said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                    What's the epidemiological lesson if we don't see a spike? It seems silly to wait for data when we already think we know good vs bad practice.

                                    That's when you dig into comorbidities.
                                    Am I right, @Loki ? šŸ˜‰

                                    Very few protesters are 80+ years of age. However if such a protester existed, I would be thrilled to see a long form CNN story written about their inspiring story of courage. Maybe RBG can make an appearance.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    @Horace said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                    Maybe RBG can make an appearance.

                                    How about she tosses a Molotov cocktail at a capitol police vehicle? I’d pay to see that.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      Well, @Loki now we have the Associated Press writing about
                                      ā€œMassive U.S. Protests Raise Fears Of New Coronavirus Outbreaksā€,
                                      and it’s carried by the Huffington Post:

                                      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/protests-raise-fears-coronavirus-outbreaks_n_5ed3966bc5b6535fe4b8b3ca

                                      ā€œHealth experts fear that silent carriers of the virus who have no symptoms could unwittingly infect others at protests where people are packed cheek to jowl, many without masks.ā€

                                      Now that we’ve got this one covered, maybe you can go find another topic on which to blame the press of bias. šŸ˜‰

                                      Oh, shame on Trumpā€˜s CDC for not publishing any public health guidelines on how to safely protest/riot during the COVID-19 pandemic. šŸ‘æ

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                                      @Axtremus said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                      Oh, shame on Trumpā€˜s CDC for not publishing any public health guidelines on how to safely protest/riot during the COVID-19 pandemic. šŸ‘æ

                                      Where Trump’s CDC fell short, NYC’s Department of Health stepped up:

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                                        I notice they don’t mention not throwing Molotovs...

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          I notice they don’t mention not throwing Molotovs...

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Still no stories about Covid spread due to protests:

                                          I notice they don’t mention not throwing Molotovs...

                                          That’s what they mean by ā€˜use hand sanitizer’.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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