Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court
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We become so concentrated on what a judge's opinions are, we forget that the ultimate arbiter is supposed to be the constitution, not whatever some judge thinks.
wrote on 3 Apr 2022, 14:34 last edited by@Horace said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:
We become so concentrated on what a judge's opinions are, we forget that the ultimate arbiter is supposed to be the constitution, not whatever some judge thinks.
Precisely.
"Endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights..."
That sounds like "natural" to me.
And that's the whole point of the Declaration. Some rights are not bestowed on people by the government. We have them because we are human.
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wrote on 3 Apr 2022, 15:36 last edited by
LOL: https://reason.com/volokh/2022/04/01/kbj-i-would-note-that-i-am-pleased-to-be-the-sixth-woman-nominated-to-serve-on-the-supreme-court/?comments=true#comments
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=Judge Jackson has submitted her responses to written questions. I haven't read through the entire packet, but I did find one error. She wrote on p. 64 of the PDF:
Finally, I would note that I am pleased to be the sixth woman nominated to serve on the Supreme Court.
Harriet Miers would beg to differ.
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Women nominees to SCOTUS:
O'Connor
Ginsburg
Miers
Sotomayor
Kagan
Barrett
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wrote on 3 Apr 2022, 15:59 last edited by
Sloppy. A bad trait in a SCOTUS.
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wrote on 3 Apr 2022, 16:39 last edited by jon-nyc 4 Mar 2022, 16:46
The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.
Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.
The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.
Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"
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The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.
Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.
The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.
Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"
wrote on 3 Apr 2022, 17:06 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:
The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.
Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.
The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.
Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"
Yes, the concept of rights presupposes a society. Otherwise, one has a right to try, and that's about it.
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The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.
Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.
The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.
Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"
wrote on 3 Apr 2022, 17:19 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:
The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.
Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.
The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.
Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"
In some philosophical discussion your point may have relevance, but the assumption of natural rights possessed by all is the platform on which the nation was built.
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wrote on 3 Apr 2022, 17:40 last edited by
If Ms. Jackson was applying for work on the Savanah that would be an important distinction.
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If Ms. Jackson was applying for work on the Savanah that would be an important distinction.
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@Copper In your own way you are conceding that such rights are conferred by society and don’t inhere to us by nature.
wrote on 3 Apr 2022, 18:21 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:
@Copper In your own way you are conceding that such rights are conferred by society and don’t inhere to us by nature.
Only if rights are necessarily enforceable. Maybe we have unalienable rights that don’t happen to be enforceable except by society. Or by being awesome at fighting.
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wrote on 4 Apr 2022, 22:59 last edited by
Despite a 11-11 tie in the committee, her nomination will proceed to the floor, where she will be confirmed.
Romney
Collins
MurkowskiHave all said, "Yes" to her nomination.
Even if they had said "No," her confirmation was a foregone conclusion if all Democrats voted in her favor - because of the tie-breaker: UPS Gal.
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wrote on 4 Apr 2022, 23:04 last edited by
It's about time. Now we can put all that talk about skin color behind us.
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wrote on 4 Apr 2022, 23:05 last edited by
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
And if you don't believe that, you should not be a citizen of this country.
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wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 18:47 last edited by
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
And if you don't believe that, you should not be a citizen of this country.
wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 18:52 last edited by@Jolly said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
And if you don't believe that, you should not be a citizen of this country.
I don’t believe it and fuck you.
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wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 18:52 last edited by
anybody to whom that messaging resonates, as compared to what was done to Kavanaugh, is a bona fide indoctrinated imbecile. There are millions and millions...
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@Jolly said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
And if you don't believe that, you should not be a citizen of this country.
I don’t believe it and fuck you.
wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 19:02 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:
@Jolly said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
And if you don't believe that, you should not be a citizen of this country.
I don’t believe it and fuck you.
Move.
Please.
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 17:26 last edited by
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 17:56 last edited by
@George-K said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:
Heh...
Of course. We have long since established on TNCR and related forums that a natural inclination towards pretentious, self satisfied status seeking predicts leftist politics within current American society. What is most fascinating is that indoctrinated mainstreamers continue to consider themselves counter culture, simply because the idea that the mainstream is counter culture is one of the many ideas they are indoctrinated into, without rational reflection or self awareness. These are evolved apes.
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wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 15:05 last edited by
It goes both sides when you look at the votes.
With some exceptions, most of the people nominated are qualified. The reason they are voted against is because of their "philosophy", not their "qualification".
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wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 15:11 last edited by
Probably the only arguably unqualified candidate in my lifetime was Harriet Myers.