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    George K
    wrote on 6 Mar 2022, 17:44 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Copper
      wrote on 6 Mar 2022, 18:18 last edited by
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      No problem we'll just switch to electric produced by nuclear.

      We should be able to get that done by the end of the week.

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        kluurs
        wrote on 6 Mar 2022, 18:25 last edited by
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        Be certain, that the Empire will strike back seeing all of these efforts as "starving" Russia. Putin will likely respond in kind - likely cyber, attacking financial and electric infrastructure. He will never want to appear "weak".

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          George K
          wrote on 7 Mar 2022, 13:34 last edited by George K 3 Jul 2022, 13:35
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          Russia's second-largest internet provider cuts off Russian websites

          For better or worse, Russia's internet just got kneecapped.

          Cogent Communications is cutting off internet service to its Russian clients, the Washington Post reported on Friday. This puts it in league with companies like Meta, which has blocked Russian state-affiliated news agencies on Facebook in Europe; Twitter, which slaps a warning label on tweets from state-run Russian media outlets; and others.

          Cogent is an internet infrastructure provider that serves international clients, including many companies in Russia. In fact, it is the country's second largest internet service provider, according to Reuters.

          In addition to the traditional war it has waged on the ground since invading Ukraine, Russia has staged cyberwar offensives against the neighboring nation's military and banking websites. It is also using its state-affiliated media outlets and bot propaganda networks to put out a version of the country's invasion of Ukraine that is favorable to Russia.

          Cogent told Reuters that it made the decision to cut off access in order to counter "outbound cyber attacks or disinformation" staged by Russian interests aligned with President Vladimir Putin. However, the company also noted that it was "a tough decision," since keeping Russians connected to the internet is crucial for them to get non-state sanctioned information.

          Other companies that have stopped doing business with Russia include tech giants like Microsoft, Apple, Google, and others, as well as Visa, Boeing, and even Harley Davidson.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 7 Mar 2022, 23:17 last edited by
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on 8 Mar 2022, 16:15 last edited by George K 3 Aug 2022, 16:15
              #99

              This is just wrong:

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vaccine-delivery-canceled-to-country-that-did-not-condemn-russia/ar-AAUKbha?ocid=msedgntp

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 21:21 last edited by
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                Strassel at WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-failing-sanctions-test-oil-gas-energy-banking-treasury-ukraine-putin-russia-oligarchs-multilateral-lend-lease-war-invasion-atrocity-war-crime-11646952980?mod=e2two

                The president continues to insist he’s “enforcing the most significant package of economic sanctions in history” against Vladimir Putin’s regime...

                The reality is far different, which accounts for rising frustration in Congress—and growing divisions between even Democrats and the White House. The administration refused to impose sanctions in the lead-up to Mr. Putin’s invasion, naively trusting diplomacy. Yet even after Russian tanks rolled—and despite having months to prepare—the response has been slow, timid, hostage to feel-good “multilateralism” and unwilling to attack the real engine of the Russian economy: energy. Even the president’s own party is losing patience with his inadequate sanctions.

                Consider that Treasury announcement. In late February Mr. Biden grandly announced sanctions targeting Russian banks. Yet on Friday, Treasury quietly clarified that the sanctions won’t apply to the banks’ energy transactions until June 24—meaning Wall Street can continue to trade in Russian oil and gas. “The energy sector of the Russian Federation economy itself is not subject to comprehensive sanctions,” explained Treasury’s website, a scandalous caveat the media largely ignored.

                The White House has also demanded congressional Democrats stand down on a bipartisan bill that would suspend Russia’s preferential trading status with the U.S.—again, seemingly in order to discuss it to death with Europe. The good news is that lawmakers in both parties said late this week that they remain undeterred and may pass the trade restriction next week—potentially forcing Mr. Biden’s hand again.

                The White House is nonetheless getting its way when it comes to blocking a Republican bill from Sen. Jim Risch that would impose real sanctions on Russia’s oil, gas, mining and mineral sectors. It targets oligarchs. It would create a lend-lease program to ensure Ukraine will continue to get necessary military resources. Crucially, it provides for “secondary sanctions” against global institutions that finance the Russian economy. As Mr. Risch notes, these secondary sanctions would “force the world’s financial institutions to make a choice between Russia and Western markets” and finally “isolate” the Russian economy.

                The White House is resisting all this for the same reason it resisted the Russian oil embargo. Truly punishing sanctions against Russia’s energy sector are still anathema to Old Europe allies who want to continue importing Russian oil. The administration also fears that seriously targeting Russian energy would further drive up gasoline prices, hurting Mr. Biden domestically.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 13 Mar 2022, 22:44 last edited by
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                  No idea of the veracity of these.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 13 Mar 2022, 22:44 last edited by
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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      13 Mar 2022, 22:44

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 14 Mar 2022, 00:45 last edited by Renauda
                      #103

                      @George-K

                      Isn’t that just wonderful, Russians will get to go back to Soviet style dentistry. If nothing else it’ll toughen up the post USSR generation.

                      My spouse has spent the last 27 years trying to correct the dentistry of her first 24 years. It’s still a work in progress.

                      Elbows up!

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                        14 Mar 2022, 00:45

                        @George-K

                        Isn’t that just wonderful, Russians will get to go back to Soviet style dentistry. If nothing else it’ll toughen up the post USSR generation.

                        My spouse has spent the last 27 years trying to correct the dentistry of her first 24 years. It’s still a work in progress.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 14 Mar 2022, 00:59 last edited by
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                        @Renauda if you recall, the motivation of Marco Raimius (a Lithuanian, I might add) in "The Hunt for Red October" to defect was the horrible medical care that his wife received under Soviet medicine.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 14 Mar 2022, 22:32 last edited by
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 14 Mar 2022, 22:34 last edited by
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                            Everything is going according to plan. A very crazy and stupid plan.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 15 Mar 2022, 16:23 last edited by
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                              @George-K said in Sanctions?:

                              USSR (or CCCP), here we come!!

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 15 Mar 2022, 16:41 last edited by
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                                @George-K said in Sanctions?:

                                I would hope the western companies can be compensated with Russian central bank assets.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 16:31 last edited by
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    15 Mar 2022, 16:41

                                    @George-K said in Sanctions?:

                                    I would hope the western companies can be compensated with Russian central bank assets.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 16:43 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in Sanctions?:

                                    @George-K said in Sanctions?:

                                    I would hope the western companies can be compensated with Russian central bank assets.

                                    One would think that likely.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 18:54 last edited by
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                                      Speaking of expropriations

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        16 Mar 2022, 18:54

                                        Speaking of expropriations

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 16 Mar 2022, 18:59 last edited by
                                        #112

                                        @jon-nyc said in Sanctions?:

                                        Speaking of expropriations

                                        I’m Loving It!

                                        The Brad

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                                          16 Mar 2022, 18:59

                                          @jon-nyc said in Sanctions?:

                                          Speaking of expropriations

                                          I’m Loving It!

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 17 Mar 2022, 11:04 last edited by
                                          #113

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

                                          I’m Loving It!

                                          Link to video

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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