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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

    @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

    @Jolly

    ...then again my definition of "young people" might need some recalibration. I'm old now.

    STFU.

    Aqua LetiferA Offline
    Aqua LetiferA Offline
    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on last edited by
    #86

    @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

    @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

    @Jolly

    ...then again my definition of "young people" might need some recalibration. I'm old now.

    STFU.

    Comments like that are completely expected and the main reason why I say such things here!

    Please love yourself.

    LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

      @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

      @Jolly

      ...then again my definition of "young people" might need some recalibration. I'm old now.

      STFU.

      Comments like that are completely expected and the main reason why I say such things here!

      LuFins DadL Offline
      LuFins DadL Offline
      LuFins Dad
      wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
      #87

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

      @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

      @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

      @Jolly

      ...then again my definition of "young people" might need some recalibration. I'm old now.

      STFU.

      Comments like that are completely expected and the main reason why I say such things here!

      You do realize that in 48 hours I will be closer to 100 than I am from my birth?

      The Brad

      jon-nycJ Aqua LetiferA JollyJ CopperC 4 Replies Last reply
      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

        @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

        @Jolly

        ...then again my definition of "young people" might need some recalibration. I'm old now.

        STFU.

        Comments like that are completely expected and the main reason why I say such things here!

        You do realize that in 48 hours I will be closer to 100 than I am from my birth?

        jon-nycJ Offline
        jon-nycJ Offline
        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #88

        @LuFins-Dad

        Welcome, Padawan.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

          @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

          @Jolly

          ...then again my definition of "young people" might need some recalibration. I'm old now.

          STFU.

          Comments like that are completely expected and the main reason why I say such things here!

          You do realize that in 48 hours I will be closer to 100 than I am from my birth?

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
          Aqua LetiferA Offline
          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on last edited by
          #89

          @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

          @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

          @Jolly

          ...then again my definition of "young people" might need some recalibration. I'm old now.

          STFU.

          Comments like that are completely expected and the main reason why I say such things here!

          You do realize that in 48 hours I will be closer to 100 than I am from my birth?

          Hey I'm busy planning out my own midlife crisis, I can't also take on yours!

          Please love yourself.

          LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

            @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

            @Jolly

            ...then again my definition of "young people" might need some recalibration. I'm old now.

            STFU.

            Comments like that are completely expected and the main reason why I say such things here!

            You do realize that in 48 hours I will be closer to 100 than I am from my birth?

            JollyJ Offline
            JollyJ Offline
            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #90

            @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

            @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

            @Jolly

            ...then again my definition of "young people" might need some recalibration. I'm old now.

            STFU.

            Comments like that are completely expected and the main reason why I say such things here!

            You do realize that in 48 hours I will be closer to 100 than I am from my birth?

            Funny, you always looked a little older to the rest of us...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

              @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

              @Jolly

              ...then again my definition of "young people" might need some recalibration. I'm old now.

              STFU.

              Comments like that are completely expected and the main reason why I say such things here!

              You do realize that in 48 hours I will be closer to 100 than I am from my birth?

              CopperC Offline
              CopperC Offline
              Copper
              wrote on last edited by
              #91

              @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

              You do realize that in 48 hours I will be closer to 100 than I am from my birth?

              You do realize that in 48 hours I will be closer to 134 than I am from my birth?

              I don't even want to think about GK.

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              • George KG Offline
                George KG Offline
                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #92

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

                  @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

                  @Jolly

                  ...then again my definition of "young people" might need some recalibration. I'm old now.

                  STFU.

                  Comments like that are completely expected and the main reason why I say such things here!

                  You do realize that in 48 hours I will be closer to 100 than I am from my birth?

                  Hey I'm busy planning out my own midlife crisis, I can't also take on yours!

                  LuFins DadL Offline
                  LuFins DadL Offline
                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #93

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Sanctions?:

                  @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

                  @Jolly

                  ...then again my definition of "young people" might need some recalibration. I'm old now.

                  STFU.

                  Comments like that are completely expected and the main reason why I say such things here!

                  You do realize that in 48 hours I will be closer to 100 than I am from my birth?

                  Hey I'm busy planning out my Planning on. Down midlife crisis, I can't also take on yours!

                  Pffft… Planning on dying at 70-80?

                  The Brad

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                  • George KG Offline
                    George KG Offline
                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #94

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • CopperC Offline
                      CopperC Offline
                      Copper
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #95

                      No problem we'll just switch to electric produced by nuclear.

                      We should be able to get that done by the end of the week.

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                      • kluursK Offline
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                        kluurs
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #96

                        Be certain, that the Empire will strike back seeing all of these efforts as "starving" Russia. Putin will likely respond in kind - likely cyber, attacking financial and electric infrastructure. He will never want to appear "weak".

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by George K
                          #97

                          Russia's second-largest internet provider cuts off Russian websites

                          For better or worse, Russia's internet just got kneecapped.

                          Cogent Communications is cutting off internet service to its Russian clients, the Washington Post reported on Friday. This puts it in league with companies like Meta, which has blocked Russian state-affiliated news agencies on Facebook in Europe; Twitter, which slaps a warning label on tweets from state-run Russian media outlets; and others.

                          Cogent is an internet infrastructure provider that serves international clients, including many companies in Russia. In fact, it is the country's second largest internet service provider, according to Reuters.

                          In addition to the traditional war it has waged on the ground since invading Ukraine, Russia has staged cyberwar offensives against the neighboring nation's military and banking websites. It is also using its state-affiliated media outlets and bot propaganda networks to put out a version of the country's invasion of Ukraine that is favorable to Russia.

                          Cogent told Reuters that it made the decision to cut off access in order to counter "outbound cyber attacks or disinformation" staged by Russian interests aligned with President Vladimir Putin. However, the company also noted that it was "a tough decision," since keeping Russians connected to the internet is crucial for them to get non-state sanctioned information.

                          Other companies that have stopped doing business with Russia include tech giants like Microsoft, Apple, Google, and others, as well as Visa, Boeing, and even Harley Davidson.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG Offline
                            George KG Offline
                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #98

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG Offline
                              George KG Offline
                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by George K
                              #99

                              This is just wrong:

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vaccine-delivery-canceled-to-country-that-did-not-condemn-russia/ar-AAUKbha?ocid=msedgntp

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George KG Offline
                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #100

                                Strassel at WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-failing-sanctions-test-oil-gas-energy-banking-treasury-ukraine-putin-russia-oligarchs-multilateral-lend-lease-war-invasion-atrocity-war-crime-11646952980?mod=e2two

                                The president continues to insist he’s “enforcing the most significant package of economic sanctions in history” against Vladimir Putin’s regime...

                                The reality is far different, which accounts for rising frustration in Congress—and growing divisions between even Democrats and the White House. The administration refused to impose sanctions in the lead-up to Mr. Putin’s invasion, naively trusting diplomacy. Yet even after Russian tanks rolled—and despite having months to prepare—the response has been slow, timid, hostage to feel-good “multilateralism” and unwilling to attack the real engine of the Russian economy: energy. Even the president’s own party is losing patience with his inadequate sanctions.

                                Consider that Treasury announcement. In late February Mr. Biden grandly announced sanctions targeting Russian banks. Yet on Friday, Treasury quietly clarified that the sanctions won’t apply to the banks’ energy transactions until June 24—meaning Wall Street can continue to trade in Russian oil and gas. “The energy sector of the Russian Federation economy itself is not subject to comprehensive sanctions,” explained Treasury’s website, a scandalous caveat the media largely ignored.

                                The White House has also demanded congressional Democrats stand down on a bipartisan bill that would suspend Russia’s preferential trading status with the U.S.—again, seemingly in order to discuss it to death with Europe. The good news is that lawmakers in both parties said late this week that they remain undeterred and may pass the trade restriction next week—potentially forcing Mr. Biden’s hand again.

                                The White House is nonetheless getting its way when it comes to blocking a Republican bill from Sen. Jim Risch that would impose real sanctions on Russia’s oil, gas, mining and mineral sectors. It targets oligarchs. It would create a lend-lease program to ensure Ukraine will continue to get necessary military resources. Crucially, it provides for “secondary sanctions” against global institutions that finance the Russian economy. As Mr. Risch notes, these secondary sanctions would “force the world’s financial institutions to make a choice between Russia and Western markets” and finally “isolate” the Russian economy.

                                The White House is resisting all this for the same reason it resisted the Russian oil embargo. Truly punishing sanctions against Russia’s energy sector are still anathema to Old Europe allies who want to continue importing Russian oil. The administration also fears that seriously targeting Russian energy would further drive up gasoline prices, hurting Mr. Biden domestically.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #101

                                  No idea of the veracity of these.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George KG Offline
                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #102

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

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                                      Renauda
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                                      #103

                                      @George-K

                                      Isn’t that just wonderful, Russians will get to go back to Soviet style dentistry. If nothing else it’ll toughen up the post USSR generation.

                                      My spouse has spent the last 27 years trying to correct the dentistry of her first 24 years. It’s still a work in progress.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        @George-K

                                        Isn’t that just wonderful, Russians will get to go back to Soviet style dentistry. If nothing else it’ll toughen up the post USSR generation.

                                        My spouse has spent the last 27 years trying to correct the dentistry of her first 24 years. It’s still a work in progress.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #104

                                        @Renauda if you recall, the motivation of Marco Raimius (a Lithuanian, I might add) in "The Hunt for Red October" to defect was the horrible medical care that his wife received under Soviet medicine.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #105

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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